Tuesday, March 23, 2010

Music Boxes! Edited transcript

Jedburgh30 Dagger: Hello everyone! Ladies and Gentlemen, Viv, Serafina and I are pleased to welcome you to the March Aether Salon - Music Boxes! As a late rez-day present to our Miss Viv, Ms. Canolli Capalini has agreed to talk to us about her music boxes and their history.

As many of you know, the Aether Salon meets to discuss steam and Victorian topics on the third Sunday of each month, in Palisades and Academy, New Babbage. This is our 16th salon and I would like to thank each and every one of you for joining us today. Just a few matters of housekeeping before we get started. If you are standing in the back, please move forward onto the maze so that you can be assured of hearing the speaker. Please hold your questions until the end, and as a courtesy to all, please turn off everything that feeds the lag: all HUDs, scripts, AOs and so on. Please no weapons, rogue scripts, unmetered poetry, or incindiary devices. Your cooperation is appreciated.

Edited and unedited transcripts will be posted this week on aethersalon.blogspot.com so you can revisit today’s merriment, read transcripts of past salons, and for a laugh, peruse “overheard at the salon.” Please join the Aether Salon group and receive notifications of future salon events, click the lower right hand corner of the large brown sign by the entrance. We sincerely appreciate the support we receive from everyone in the community and we humbly thank you all.

Many fine people have contributed to today’s salon: We are grateful to Canolli Capalini of Capalini Fine Furnishings for the wonderful salon chairs, Miss Ceejay Writer, Mr. Rafael Fabre, Miss Redgirl Llewellen, Miss Breezy Carver, Miss Ahnyanka Delphin for the stage and the citizens of New Babbage who make this event possible.

Mark your calendars for next month’s salon, Ironclads with Commodore Hotspur O'Toole. Upcoming Salons will include Photography with Mr PJ Trenton, and Wireless with Miss Gabrielle Riel. As a reminder, all speakers' fund jar donations go directly to the speakers. Now I will turn the stage over to Miss Viv for the introduction of today’s speaker.

Viv Trafalgar: Thank you Jed. Thank you all for coming. Many of you know that Miss Capalini is a talented craftsperson and also the maker of some of my favorite music boxes on the grid; some of you even know that I have been collecting these objects for some time. I love to set out several here and there to enhance a scene or particular story. They are beautifully wrought, extremely detailed, and amazingly well conceived from the music to the interactivity, to the design. Canolli's imagination knows no bounds. We've asked her here to speak today about Music Boxes - as you can tell from the title - let me tell you a few other things about Miss Capalini first

After losing her family to cholera, she was sent to her Uncle Chadsworth Capalini, a carpenter who lived in Lexington, Kentucky. He took her regularly to his woodshop and as Canolli grew, her attention to detail in the woodworking was attributed to the Uncle and his business became known for high quality furniture and chests. Not wishing to lose a valuable commodity, her Uncle kept any suitors away. Uncle Chadsworth disappeared under mysterious circumstances and suspicion was cast upon the young woman. The store was closed and Miss Capalini disappeared. Seven years later, she appeared in New Babbage.

At first, Canolli constructed a chair here and there, donating them to the New Babbage Geographical Society. Seeing the excellence of her work, commissions started rolling in. She was able to open her own store in a few months. She disapproves of excesses and generally carries a bit of food on her person in case she meets an urchin. Friendly, with a soft southern drawl, but wary of crowds, she gets along well in New Babbage. Particularly because no one asks any questions.

Certainly not about her past and not about the hammer she keeps upon her person at all times. Without further ado, please help me in welcoming Miss Canolli Capalini.

Canolli Capalini nods. Thank you for the intro. Ladies and gentlemen, I was asked to speak today as a special favor for Viv's.. long standing addiction.

Not that I have ever eyed her purse and sent a teasing advert for a new box her way.. but music boxes are a subject that is very personal to me. And i suspect, if you are a person that likes music boxes, they carry something personal with them for you as well.

To begin today's talk, let's get some of the technical aspects out of the way.. What is a music box? Our current idea of a music box is a 19th century invention. It produces sounds by the use of a set of pins placed on a revolving cylinder or disc so as to pluck the tuned teeth of a steel comb. They were developed from musical snuff boxes of the 18th century and called carillons à musique. Some of the more complex boxes also have a tiny drum and small bells, in addition to the metal comb. Note that the tone of a musical box is unlike that of any musical instrument.

Now prior to the 18th century.. there were of course, many musical inventions.. dating all the way back to antiquity. Most notably, Heron of Alexandria. He didn't make music boxes that played music, but created inventions that mimicked the calls of birds.. the whispers and sighs of maidens, heraldic trumpets enough to fool the mind into believing they were hearing wisps of music upon the air.

In the 9th century in Persia, two brothers made a set of automatic organs that played continuously driven by water. However, our modern ideal of music boxes was perfected in Switzerland with the watchmakers. As the industrialization of the world hit full stride, music boxes gained even more popularity as the emerging middle classes could suddenly afford to have music at their command in their homes. The more newly moneyed families could even have more complex mechanical creations to imitate full orchestras, hence the orchestrion.. which was nothing more than a hugely elaborate music box that incorporated several instruments.

At the turn of the century, a music box could well have been used as a status symbol, who it was made by and how intricate it could get. Automatons, singing birds, dancing figures. But in the end, the music box was doomed. Thomas Edison, the invention of the phonograph, and the widespread use of radio sealed the fate of these little works of art.

Most of the music box manufacturers actually went out of business at this time, and the beautiful little bits of clockwork were very much becoming extinct. However, something interesting happened. Europe was flooded with Americans fighting in WWII. : Much like any tourist, these soldiers wanted to take home souvenirs to their families, and the little music box began a ressurgence that has not ceased to this day.

Now, the popularity has never revived completely, and to this date there are only two main manufacturers left.. Reuge, SA, still providing fine swiss clockworks.. and the Sankyo japanese company, that does the most of what you see in novelty and automated music boxes.

Now, that's a very base history of music boxes.. and I wasn't sure what people wanted t know.. soo I guess I'll open it up to questions.

Bookworm Hienrichs: I would guess most people would like to know how and why you started making them here, Miss Capalini.

Ceejay Writer: I have a question - or a wonderment. Not sure.

Viv Trafalgar: oh Good first question Book then Ceejay

Canolli Capalini: Well, Miss Hienrichs, I started making music boxes here because.. I guess, i've always wanted to be a bit of a toy maker, and i've always had a particular love of the sound of a music box. It makes me feel as though I'm hearing something.. that maybe I shouldn't be hearing.. like the hint of a far off song, or perhaps a glimpse into another world. Combine that with a love of automatons, and clock work.. it just seemed natural. In other words, I couldn't help myself.

Viv Trafalgar: Miss Writer, next question/wonderment?

Ceejay Writer: I'm fascinated by Heron of Alexandria's work - and I cannot IMAGINE how he made a music box sound like a woman's sighs. Any idea how his mechanics worked?

Canolli Capalini: Heron used a variaty of methods.. but his most common technique was simply steam. He would devise a series of metal pipes and whistles that would be attached to a hidden cistern..

Ceejay Writer: Aaaah! Thank you - I can imagine steam power!

Canolli Capalini: a fire would be lit, and the steam from the liquid would provide airflow.. which in turn would vary as the fire waned and warmed. Actually, i would go so far as to say he is the ORIGINAL Steampunk. Now of course, we don't know exactly how he did a great many of the things he did. We're still unsure exactly how he rigged the doors to Zeus's temple to open the way they did.. but it's a very interesting study.

Rowan Derryth: Miss Capalini, are there any notable collectionsof music boxes that you might know of, for further study?

Canolli Capalini smiles.. if I did make something to honor heron, it would more likely be a clockwork bird of some kind. Well, obviously.. there are the ornate faberge creations.. they weren't all music boxes, but some were and it was very intricately done.

Rowan Derryth: Ah,yes

Canolli Capalini: Also, the Porter Music Box Comapny (which banks today on antique cabinet music boxes).. they have a great museum and history of different kinds of music boxes.. which leads to the variations in tones between the different stylings of mechanisms.

Viv Trafalgar: Where is this museum?

Canolli Capalini: A porter music box sounds extremely different froma Reuge Music box. Randolf, Vermont, Miss Trafalgar. Most of the Reuge and smaller music boxes are cylindrical music boxes. Many of the older and larger companies (Porter included) were mostly the disc variety.. and depending upon how many springs a music box incorporated, determined how long it could play.

Bookworm Hienrichs raises her hand with another question, if no one else has one.

Canolli Capalini: In the modern world (such as Sankyo), many companies are going to a mp3 stylization. Electronic music boxery. Many of the cheaper novelty music boxes that you get.. do not actually have music box movements.. merely a chip. Yes, Miss Hienrichs.. you had another question?

Bookworm Hienrichs: What can you tell us about this large music box to the side? *gesture to the left side of the stage--her left*

Canolli Capalini smiles.. I brought that as an example of a more ornate item. This was actually a box that I made to a customer's specifications for a wedding. Now, it doesn't play music box music.. the customer was very specific about the song for his intended.. and he did not wish it to be music box music. (i can't imagine why) I wanted to show how something personal could be incorporated into an object. The phoenix and unicorn carrying specific meaning.. the other symbols obvious.. we incorporate the use of light when it opens to provide a dramatic feeling of divinement.

Marion Questi: I'm impressed at how you managed to stitch together the sound files so seamlessly... I also brought it because it is one of the few music boxes that will never be sold outside of the customer.

Canolli Capalini: Marion.. when you utilize one of my music boxes.. you'll note before every one, there is moment of preloading. That is how I ensure that the music plays as seamlessly as this medium will allow it, because in SL, your hearing music clientside... so each person here is hearing it just a TAD different from every other person here. That preloading allows a set amount of files to load so it doesn't have to load them as it goes.

We have the same principle here.. this is one of the first boxes I made. This was before I had truly learned what i was doing with animation and sounds fully.. So the sound is weaker, but it is the full 3 minute song.

Bookworm Hienrichs: I love the detail of the landscape picture behind the gears.

Breezy Carver: and the clock !

Ceejay Writer: At that size, I'm tempting to simply sprawl on the floor in front of it and let it be an immersive experience.

Canolli Capalini: But true to the asthetics of the swiss clock makers, I also started incorporating the musicboxes with clocks. So, as my love with clockworks and music boxes grow.. so do my creations. And really, that is the point of SL, isn't it? And yes, it plays a music box tune on the hour. Any other questions abut music boxes? or my music boxes?

Viv Trafalgar: where do you find your inspiration for these? They seem to be telling stories of their own

Canolli Capalini: Usually.. .. I don't know. Some I dream, some i see something similiar in my first life and i want to make it my own ... some.. just sort of create themselves.

Jasper Kiergarten: where do you find your music sources?

Viv Trafalgar: (last question, I'm afraid)

Canolli Capalini grins.. believe it or not Mr. Kiergarten, I make many of them.

Beq Janus ratchets up her admiration another 5 notches

Jasper Kiergarten: midi?

Canolli Capalini: I went to college on a music scholarship and can play several instruments. I have a wonderful synthesizer and i use freesound.org to find many of the clicks and whistles and metallic sounds. I use Goldwave as a sound editor. I actually found goldwave to be the most intuitive sound editing program i could find.

Viv Trafalgar: I'm just about to pick up the speaker's fund - all donations to thsi jar go to the speaker

Canolli Capalini: It doesn't have ALL the bells and whistles i would like, but it does work marvelously well for what I want to do with it.

Jasper Kiergarten: using Live for midi and Melody assistant for notation. Excellent

Canolli Capalini: oh i use an old ratty notebook for notation.

Viv Trafalgar: and then we invite you to take the gift that Miss Canolli has very wonderfully donated to the salon today - a beautiful new box. Although it is sitting very close to me, please know you are in no danger of having your fingers slapped if you reach out for one

Canolli Capalini: Any other questins? about music boxes? the history of?

Viv Trafalgar: and with our Deepest Thanks and appreciation Canolli - who overcame obstacles to be here today

Kathy Jameson: Thank you, Miss Capalini!

Canolli Capalini: I mean, music boxes have a very deep history.. this was only lighly touching the surface.

Serafina Puchkina: Thank you, Miss Canolli! You are indeed a talented and creative artist. Thank you. And thank you, Salon patrons, for your interest and support. If you would like to join the Aether Salon group, please click the sign by the entrance. Our next salon is April 18 with Hotspur Otoole, Ironclads!

Canolli Capalini: Oh, and if you are doing the Steam Hunt? one of CFF's prizes is a previously unsold music box.

Beq Janus adds that you can use the very same sign to donate to the Salon's upkeep, as it could do with a lick of poaint here and there

Monday, March 22, 2010

Music Boxes! Unedited transcript

[13:57] Canolli Capalini: Hello Sera
[13:57] Viv Trafalgar: Hello Miss Jameson, Hello Miss Capalini!
[13:57] Serafina Puchkina: Hello! okay, your stage is ready!!
[13:57] Serafina Puchkina: Welcome
[13:58] Serafina Puchkina: Hello Miss Jameson
[13:58] Beq Janus: thank the gods for that Olli is here. I thought we were going to have to have Jed talking about music boxes and that would have been a far different salon
[13:58] Kathy Jameson: Good afternoon, Miss Puchkina.
[13:59] Rowan Derryth: Good afternoon everyone
[13:59] Stargirl Macbain: Hullo!
[13:59] Jasper Kiergarten is Offline
[13:59] Bookworm Hienrichs: Good day, Miss Derryth.
[13:59] Sky Netizen: Afternoon. :-)
[13:59] Serafina Puchkina: Hello Miss Derryth!
[13:59] Viv Trafalgar: WElcome Rowan!
[13:59] Maribelle Bronet: Good afternoon.
[13:59] Beq Janus: Hi Rowan
[13:59] Jasper Kiergarten is Online
[14:00] Rowan Derryth: rez rez rez
[14:00] Jasper Kiergarten: if anyone asked for a chair while I was crashing, my apologies
[14:00] Bookworm Hienrichs: Hmmm. So far, there seems to be a distinct lack of the non-distaff sex.
[14:01] Bookworm Hienrichs grins.
[14:01] Jasper Kiergarten: and you'll need to ask again :)
[14:01] Saffia Widdershins: Hi Rowan!
[14:01] Marion Questi: Hello Miss Trafalgar, Miss Puchkina..^^
[14:01] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Astute observation Book
[14:01] Serafina Puchkina: Welcome Mr. Questi!
[14:01] Viv Trafalgar: Welcome Mr. Questi, Dame Malaprop!
[14:01] Marion Questi: Dame Ordinal!
[14:01] Marion Questi: How very nice to see you,
[14:02] Serafina Puchkina: Welcome Miss Malaprop
[14:02] Jasper Kiergarten: greetings
[14:02] Ordinal Malaprop: Hello all.
[14:02] Marion Questi: Greetings Mr Kiergarten.
[14:02] Jasper Kiergarten: how are you sir?
[14:02] Jasper Kiergarten: and hello Miss Malprop
[14:02] Serafina Puchkina: Again before we begin, need a chair, ask Jasper. One of Miss Capalini's creations.
[14:03] Serafina Puchkina: the chair, not Jasper
[14:03] Viv Trafalgar: LOL
[14:03] Bookworm Hienrichs laughs.
[14:03] Sky Netizen smirks
[14:03] Kathy Jameson laughs
[14:03] Viv Trafalgar: please do come in and be seated
[14:03] Jedburgh30 Dagger: I don't know if she wants credit for that one
[14:03] Jasper Kiergarten: shuffles feet nervously
[14:03] Jedburgh30 Dagger: *clears throat*
[14:04] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Hello everyone! Ladies and Gentlemen, Viv, Serafina and I are pleased to welcome you to the March Aether Salon - Music Boxes! As a late rez-day present to our Miss Viv, Ms. Canolli Capalini has agreed to talk to us about her music boxes and their history.
[14:04] Jedburgh30 Dagger: As many of you know, the Aether Salon meets to discuss steam and Victorian topics on the third Sunday of each month, in Palisades and Academy, New Babbage. This is our 16th salon and I would like to thank each and every one of you for joining us today
[14:04] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Just a few matters of housekeeping before we get started. If you are standing in the back, please move forward onto the maze so that you can be assured of hearing the speaker. Please hold your questions until the end, and as a courtesy to all, please turn off everything that feeds the lag: all HUDs, scripts, AOs and so on. Please no weapons, rogue scripts, unmetered poetry, or incindiary devices. Your cooperation is appreciated.
[14:05] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Edited and unedited transcripts will be posted this week on aethersalon.blogspot.com so you can revisit today’s merriment, read transcripts of past salons, and for a laugh, peruse “overheard at the salon.” Please join the Aether Salon group and receive notifications of future salon events, click the lower right hand corner of the large brown sign by the entrance. We sincerely appreciate the support we receive from everyone in the community and we humbly thank you all.
[14:06] Viv Trafalgar: ::grins::
[14:06] Viv Trafalgar was just sorting through a long list of music boxes
[14:06] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Many fine people have contributed to today’s salon: We are grateful to Canolli Capalini of Capalini Fine Furnishings for the wonderful salon chairs, Miss Ceejay Writer, Mr. Rafael Fabre, Miss Redgirl Llewellen, Miss Breezy Carver, Miss Ahnyanka Delphin for the stage and the citizens of New Babbage who make this event possible.
[14:07] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Mark your calendars for next month’s salon, Ironclads with Commodore Hotspur O'Toole. Upcoming Salons will include Photography with Mr PJ Trenton, and Wireless with Miss Gabrielle Riel. As a reminder, all speakers' fund jar donations go directly to the speakers.
[14:07] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Now I will turn the stage over to Miss Viv for the introduction of today’s speaker.
[14:07] Bookworm Hienrichs applauds.
[14:07] Viv Trafalgar: Thank you Jed
[14:08] Viv Trafalgar: Thank you all for coming
[14:08] Viv Trafalgar: Many of you know that Miss Capalini is a talented craftsperson
[14:08] Viv Trafalgar: and also the maker of some of my favorite music boxes on the grid;
[14:08] Viv Trafalgar: some of you even know that I have been collecting these objects for some time.
[14:08] Viv Trafalgar: I love to set out several here and there to enhance a scene or particular story.
[14:08] Viv Trafalgar: They are beautifully wrought, extremely detailed, and amazingly well conceived
[14:08] Viv Trafalgar: from the music to the interactivity, to the design. Canolli's imagination knows no bounds.
[14:09] Viv Trafalgar: We've asked her here to speak today about Music Boxes - as you can tell from the title -
[14:09] Viv Trafalgar: let me tell you a few other things about Miss Capalini first
[14:09] Viv Trafalgar: After losing her family to cholera, she was sent to her Uncle Chadsworth Capalini,
[14:09] Viv Trafalgar: a carpenter who lived in Lexington, Kentucky.
He took her regularly to his woodshop and as Canolli grew, her attention to detail in the woodworking was attributed to the Uncle
[14:09] Viv Trafalgar: and his business became known for high quality furniture and chests
[14:09] Viv Trafalgar: Not wishing to lose a valuable commodity, her Uncle kept any suitors away. Uncle Chadsworth disappeared under mysterious circumstances and suspicion was cast upon the young woman.
[14:10] Ordinal Malaprop: Boo!
[14:10] Viv Trafalgar: the store was closed and Miss Capalini disappeared.
[14:10] Kathy Jameson: Oh my!
[14:10] Viv Trafalgar: Seven years later, she appeared in New Babbage.
[14:10] Viv Trafalgar: At first, Canolli constructed a chair here and there, donating them to the New Babbage Geographical Society. Seeing the excellence of her work, commissions started rolling in. She was able to open her own store in a few months.
[14:10] Viv Trafalgar: She disapproves of excesses and generally carries a bit of food on her person in case she meets an urchin.
[14:10] Viv Trafalgar: Friendly, with a soft southern drawl, but wary of crowds, she gets along well in New Babbage.
[14:10] Viv Trafalgar: Particularly because no one asks any questions.
[14:10] Viv Trafalgar: Certainly not about her past and not about the hammer she keeps upon her person at all times.
[14:11] Viv Trafalgar casts a longing glance at the music box on stage that she definitively does NOT have yet
[14:11] Viv Trafalgar: Without further ado, please help me in welcoming Miss Canolli Capalini.
[14:11] Bookworm Hienrichs chuckles and applauds.
[14:11] Kathy Jameson applauds
[14:11] Breezy Carver: ✰·.·´` Claps Very Loudly!! ´`·.·✰
[14:11] Serafina Puchkina applauds
[14:11] Ceejay Writer applauds till her hands hurt.
[14:11] Sky Netizen applauds
[14:11] Canolli Capalini nods. Thank you for the intro
[14:11] Beq Janus claps
[14:11] Maribelle Bronet claps and claps
[14:11] Viv Trafalgar: Thank you for being here!
[14:11] Breezy Carver smiles
[14:11] Stargirl Macbain applauds madly
[14:11] Breezy Carver: ☆smiles ☆
[14:12] Canolli Capalini: Ladies and gentlemen, I was asked to speak today as a special favor for Viv's.. long standing addiction.
[14:12] Ceejay Writer chuckles.
[14:12] Viv Trafalgar blushes
[14:13] Canolli Capalini: Not that I have ever eyed her purse and sent a teasing advert for a new box her way.. but music boxes are a subject that is very personal to me.
[14:13] Canolli Capalini: and i suspect, if you are a person that likes music boxes, they carry something personal with them for you as well.
[14:14] Canolli Capalini: To begin today's talk, let's get some of the technical aspects out of the way.. What is a music box?
[14:15] Canolli Capalini: Our current idea of a music box is a 19th century invention.
[14:15] Canolli Capalini: It produces sounds by the use of a set of pins placed on a revolving cylinder or disc so as to pluck the tuned teeth of a steel comb. They were developed from musical snuff boxes of the 18th century and called carillons à musique. Some of the more complex boxes also have a tiny drum and small bells, in addition to the metal comb. Note that the tone of a musical box is unlike that of any musical instrument.
[14:16] Viv Trafalgar nods.
[14:16] Breezy Carver: ☆smiles ☆
[14:17] Canolli Capalini: Now prior to the 18th century.. there were of course, many musical inventions.. dating all the way back to antiquity. Most notably, Heron of Alexandria. He didn't make music boxes that played music, but created inventions that mimicked the calls of birds.. the whispers and sighs of maidens, heraldic trumpets enough to fool the mind into believing they were hearing wisps of music upon the air.
[14:18] Bookworm Hienrichs chuckles.
[14:18] Ceejay Writer mutters. "So the music boxes were our competition."
[14:18] Canolli Capalini: In the 9th century in Persia, two brothers made a set of automatic organs that played continuously driven by water.
[14:18] Rowan Derryth grins
[14:18] Viv Trafalgar learns something new every time
[14:20] Canolli Capalini: However, our modern ideal of music boxes was perfected in Switzerland with the watchmakers.
[14:21] Ceejay Writer: Clockwork, huzzah.
[14:21] Stargirl Macbain smiles
[14:21] Canolli Capalini: As the industrialization of the world hit full stride, music boxes gained even more popularity as the emerging middle classes could suddenly afford to have music at their command in their homes.
[14:21] Serafina Puchkina: interesting!
[14:21] Breezy Carver nods
[14:22] Canolli Capalini: The more newly moneyed families could even have more complex mechanical creations to imitate full orchestras, hence the orchestrion.. which was nothing more than a hugely elaborate music box that incorporated several instruments.
[14:23] Canolli Capalini: At the turn of the century, a music box could well have been used as a status symbol, who it was made by and how intricate it could get.
[14:23] Canolli Capalini: Automatons, singing birds, dancing figures.
[14:23] Viv Trafalgar: ahh. that makes sense
[14:23] Breezy Carver ponders and imagines a tiny tiny orchestra in every box ...
[14:24] Viv Trafalgar: nodnodno
[14:24] Viv Trafalgar: d
[14:24] Canolli Capalini: But in the end, the music box was doomed.
[14:24] Viv Trafalgar: NO!!!!!!!!!
[14:24] Ceejay Writer frowns.
[14:24] Breezy Carver gasp !!
[14:24] Viv Trafalgar: ::coughs delicately into a kerchief::
[14:24] Sky Netizen gasps
[14:24] Canolli Capalini: Thomas Edison, the invention of the phonograph, and the widespread use of radio sealed the fate of these little works of art.
[14:25] Beq Janus: would be a man's fault
[14:25] Breezy Carver fans .. fans .. sigh ..
[14:25] Kathy Jameson: Curse that Edison!
[14:25] Stargirl Macbain: Darn that Edison!
[14:25] Ceejay Writer schemes a very late protest.
[14:25] Maribelle Bronet hides a smile.
[14:26] Canolli Capalini: Most of the music box manufacturers actually went out of business at this time, and the beautiful little bits of clockwork were very much becoming extinct.
[14:26] Breezy Carver wipes away lost tears
[14:26] Ceejay Writer wants to start a revival.
[14:26] Canolli Capalini: However, something interesting happened. Europe was flooded with Americans fighting in WWII.
[14:27] Breezy Carver looks up ..
[14:28] Canolli Capalini: Much like any tourist, these soldiers wanted to take home souvenirs to their families, and the little music box began a ressurgence that has not ceased to this day.
[14:28] Breezy Carver: yay ☆smiles ☆
[14:28] Stargirl Macbain: Now that I would have never guessed at.
[14:28] Mosseveno Tenk is Online
[14:29] Ceejay Writer: Wonderful tidbit of history.
[14:29] Canolli Capalini: Now, the popularity has never revived completely, and to this date there are only two main manufacturers left.. Reuge, SA, still providing fine swiss clockworks.. and the Sankyo japanese company, that does the most of what you see in novelty and automated music boxes.
[14:29] Viv Trafalgar: wonders if most of the music box makers are in Europe
[14:29] Viv Trafalgar: ahaha
[14:29] Breezy Carver grins
[14:29] Canolli Capalini: Now, that's a very base history of music boxes.. and I wasn't sure what people wanted t know.. soo I guess I'll open it up to questions.
[14:30] Breezy Carver: ✰·.·´` Claps Very Loudly!! ´`·.·✰
[14:30] Ceejay Writer applauds!
[14:30] Kathy Jameson applauds
[14:30] Sky Netizen applauds!
[14:30] Rowan Derryth applauds vigorously
[14:30] Stargirl Macbain claps!
[14:30] Bookworm Hienrichs: I would guess most people would like to know how and why you started making them here, Miss Capalini.
[14:30] Saffia Widdershins applauds
[14:30] Bookworm Hienrichs smiles.
[14:30] Viv Trafalgar: that's a lot of new information for me Olli!
[14:30] Elica Bowenford: applauds
[14:30] Ceejay Writer: I have a question - or a wonderment. Not sure.
[14:30] Viv Trafalgar: oh Good first question Book
[14:30] Zachary Somerset applauds
[14:30] Viv Trafalgar: then Ceejay
[14:30] Canolli Capalini: Well, Miss Hienrichs, I started making music boxes here because..
[14:31] Canolli Capalini: I guess, i've always wanted to be a bit of a toy maker, and i've always had a particular love of the sound of a music box.
[14:31] Breezy Carver: ☆smiles ☆
[14:31] Canolli Capalini: it makes me feel as though I'm hearing something.. that maybe I shouldn't be hearing.. like the hint of a far off song, or perhaps a glimpse into another world.
[14:31] Viv Trafalgar grins
[14:31] Ceejay Writer smiles. "Good reasons"
[14:31] Breezy Carver: awww ☆smiles ☆
[14:31] Canolli Capalini: Combine that with a love of automatons, and clock work.. it just seemed natural.
[14:32] Sky Netizen smiles
[14:32] Canolli Capalini: in other words, I couldn't help myself.
[14:32] Maribelle Bronet smiles warmly.
[14:32] Bookworm Hienrichs chuckles.
[14:32] Maribelle Bronet: Good for you nad us!
[14:32] Viv Trafalgar: Miss Writer, next question/wonderment?
[14:32] Maribelle Bronet: nad = and >_>
[14:32] Canolli Capalini smiles.. Miss Writer, you had a question?
[14:33] Ceejay Writer: I'm fascinated by Heron of Alexandria's work - and I cannot IMAGINE how he made a music box sound like a woman's sighs. Any idea how his mechanics worked?
[14:33] Beq Janus: mp3
[14:33] Kathy Jameson giggles.
[14:33] Bookworm Hienrichs snickers.
[14:33] Ceejay Writer: Hah!
[14:33] Zachary Somerset chuckles
[14:34] Canolli Capalini: Heron used a variety of methods.. but his most common technique was simply steam. He would devise a series of metal pipes and whistles that would be attached to a hidden cistern..
[14:34] Viv Trafalgar thinks quietly that it sounds a bit ... risque?
[14:34] Ceejay Writer: Aaaah! Thank you - I can imagine steam power!
[14:34] Canolli Capalini: a fire would be lit, and the steam from the liquid would provide airflow.. which in turn would vary as the fire waned and warmed.
[14:34] Kathy Jameson: No decency in the 9th century. That was the trouble.
[14:35] Serafina Puchkina chuckles
[14:35] Canolli Capalini: Actually, i wuld go so far as to say he is the ORIGINAL Steampunk.
[14:35] Beq Janus: music to my ears :-)
[14:35] Sky Netizen smirks
[14:35] Viv Trafalgar: !! Headline !!
[14:35] Stargirl Macbain grins
[14:35] Maribelle Bronet laughs
[14:35] Rowan Derryth: Maybe a limited edition box in his honour is in order?
[14:35] Canolli Capalini: Now of course, we don't know exactly how he did a great many of the things he did.
[14:35] Viv Trafalgar: o.O
[14:36] Ceejay Writer: Good idea, Rowan.
[14:36] Rowan Derryth: Viv can be first in line for it.
[14:36] Beq Janus: I think Elfod could help build that, as it would be the size of a house
[14:36] Canolli Capalini: We're still unsure exactly how he rigged the doors to Zeus's temple to open the way they did..
[14:36] Canolli Capalini: But it's a very interesting study.
[14:37] Ceejay Writer: I need to study more in this realm.
[14:37] Viv Trafalgar sharpens her elbows in order to help her be first in line
[14:37] Bookworm Hienrichs laughs.
[14:37] Ceejay Writer eyebrows.
[14:37] Rowan Derryth: Miss Capalini, are there any notable collections of music boxes that you might know of, for further study?
[14:37] Canolli Capalini smiles.. if I did make something to honor heron, it would more likely be a clockwork bird of some kind.
[14:37] Beq Janus ties Viv's laces together
[14:38] Ceejay Writer ties the tied laces to the chair legs.
[14:38] Canolli Capalini: Well, obviously.. there are the ornate faberge creations.. they weren't all music boxes, but some were and it was very intricately done.
[14:38] Viv Trafalgar: ... a clockwork ... heron ... music box perhaps?
[14:38] Stargirl Macbain chuckles
[14:38] Rowan Derryth: Ah,yes
[14:38] Breezy Carver: whispers hello to thumper .. and and waves to Victor .. grins
[14:38] Canolli Capalini: Also, the Porter Music Box Comapny (which banks today on antique cabinet music boxes).. they have a great museum and history of different kinds of music boxes..
[14:39] Victor1st Mornington waves to miss breezy
[14:39] Canolli Capalini: which leads to the variations in tones between the different stylings of mechanisms.
[14:39] Ceejay Writer whispers. "Viiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiictor."
[14:39] Viv Trafalgar: Where is this museum?
[14:39] Canolli Capalini: A porter music box sounds extremely different froma Reuge Music box.
[14:40] Canolli Capalini: Randolf, Vermont, Miss Trafalgar.
[14:40] Breezy Carver: oh like those teddy bears of the future .. (( laughs))
[14:40] Canolli Capalini: Most of the Reuge and smaller music boxes are cylindrical music boxes.
[14:40] Viv Trafalgar goes to wind the clockwork bicycle
[14:41] Canolli Capalini: Many of the older and larger companies (Porter included) were mostly the disc variety..
[14:41] Canolli Capalini: and depending upon how many springs a music box incorporated, determined how long it could play.
[14:41] Bookworm Hienrichs: Interesting.
[14:42] Bookworm Hienrichs raises her hand with another question, if no one else has one.
[14:42] Canolli Capalini: In the modern world (such as Sankyo), many companies are going to a mp3 stylization.
[14:42] Canolli Capalini: electronic music boxery.
[14:42] Kathy Jameson: Egads!
[14:42] Victor1st Mornington: neighbour has one of those, electronic music box...it lacks warmth in the sound :(
[14:42] Canolli Capalini: many of the cheaper novelty music boxes that you get.. do not actually have music box movements.. merely a chip.
[14:43] Beq Janus: ugh
[14:43] Viv Trafalgar: that seems ... to have some horific implications - as if one would want a talking electric bear
[14:43] Canolli Capalini: Yes, Miss Hienrichs.. you had another question?
[14:43] Rowan Derryth: Like those horrible 80s greeting cards
[14:43] Beq Janus: isn't that like a novelty door chime?
[14:43] Stargirl Macbain: Ugh.
[14:43] Kathy Jameson: Next thing you know, they'll be making watches without movements.
[14:43] Bookworm Hienrichs: What can you tell us about this large music box to the side? *gesture to the left side of the stage--her left*
[14:43] Rowan Derryth: Some people might think such watches were a pretty neat idea.
[14:44] Canolli Capalini smiles.. I brought that as an example of a more ornate item. This was actually a box that I made to a customer's specifications for a wedding.
[14:44] Viv Trafalgar: has never seen THAT before
[14:44] Beq Janus giggles at Viv
[14:44] Viv Trafalgar tries not to stare
[14:44] Canolli Capalini: Now, it doesn't play music box music.. the customer was very specific about the song for his intended.. and he did not wish it to be music box music.
[14:44] Canolli Capalini: (i can't imagine why)
[14:44] Victor1st Mornington: o.O
[14:45] Breezy Carver: WOW !!!!!!
[14:45] Bookworm Hienrichs: Oh, lovely!
[14:45] Breezy Carver: WOW!!!!!
[14:45] Victor1st Mornington: ohhhhhhhh Etta James :)
[14:45] Ceejay Writer: That's..... so romantic.
[14:45] Viv Trafalgar: oh wow
[14:45] Serafina Puchkina sighs
[14:45] Ceejay Writer: I hope she was very appreciative!
[14:45] Stargirl Macbain: Ohhh!
[14:45] Sky Netizen smiles
[14:45] Maribelle Bronet: Lovely!
[14:46] Canolli Capalini: i wanted to show how something personal could be incorporated into an object.
[14:46] Rowan Derryth smiles romantically
[14:46] Victor1st Mornington: whoever it was, they have a good taste in music...
[14:46] Maribelle Bronet nods in agreement
[14:47] Canolli Capalini: The phoenix and unicorn carrying specific meaning.. the other symbols obvious..
[14:47] Bookworm Hienrichs snaps frantically.
[14:47] Canolli Capalini: we incorporate the use of light when it opens to provide a dramatic feeling of divinement.
[14:47] Viv Trafalgar goes to get a sack
[14:47] Breezy Carver: grins
[14:47] Viv Trafalgar: .... and some rope, I'll need rope
[14:47] Breezy Carver swoons to the song ..
[14:47] Viv Trafalgar realizes she is thinking aloud and looks innocent
[14:48] Serafina Puchkina thinks about restraining Viv and decides she values her arm too much
[14:48] Bookworm Hienrichs laughs.
[14:48] Marion Questi: I'm impressed at how you managed to stitch together the sound files so seamlessly...
[14:48] Rowan Derryth shakes her head at Viv.
[14:48] Breezy Carver: oh and the detail of the wood and grain and yess the contents of course !!
[14:48] Canolli Capalini: I also brought it because it is one of the few music boxes that will never be sold outside of the customer.
[14:48] Bookworm Hienrichs nods.
[14:48] Viv Trafalgar:
[14:48] Ceejay Writer: As it should be. One of a kind.
[14:48] Viv Trafalgar looks at the floor
[14:48] Beq Janus looks at Viv to see the look on her face
[14:49] Canolli Capalini: Marion.. when you utilize one of my music boxes.. you'll note before every one, there is moment of preloading.
[14:49] Breezy Carver: awww
[14:49] Ceejay Writer: I think we will all leave daydreaming of having a special music box of our own someday.
[14:49] Canolli Capalini: That is how I ensure that the music plays as seamlessly as this medium will allow it.
[14:49] Viv Trafalgar: nods - agreed Ceejay
[14:49] Rowan Derryth agrees wistfully with Ceejay
[14:50] Canolli Capalini: because in SL, your hearing music clientside... so each person here is hearing it just a TAD different from every other person here.
[14:50] Ceejay Writer: *nod* True point.
[14:50] Breezy Carver: loud and clear here ☆smiles ☆
[14:50] Canolli Capalini: that preloading allows a set amount of files to load so it doesn't have to load them as it goes.
[14:50] Breezy Carver: and i am across the room
[14:51] Bookworm Hienrichs: Truly amazing work, Miss Capalini!
[14:51] Bookworm Hienrichs eeps!
[14:51] Viv Trafalgar looks
[14:51] Serafina Puchkina: wowsers!
[14:51] Kathy Jameson: My goodness!
[14:52] Ceejay Writer feels faint.
[14:52] Canolli Capalini: We have the same principle here.. this is one of the first boxes I made.
[14:52] Serafina Puchkina: that's truly impressive
[14:52] Bookworm Hienrichs goggles.
[14:52] Viv Trafalgar: doesn't have THIS either
[14:52] Victor1st Mornington: i was sorely tempted to buy that when i seen it at the sgop...
[14:52] Viv Trafalgar: how is this possible??
[14:52] Victor1st Mornington: *shop
[14:52] Victor1st Mornington: well, it looked that that one
[14:53] Breezy Carver: grins
[14:53] Canolli Capalini: This was before I had truly learned what i was doing with animation and sounds fully.. So the sound is weaker, but it is the full 3 minute song.
[14:53] Maribelle Bronet: It's marvelous!
[14:54] Bookworm Hienrichs: I love the detail of the landscape picture behind the gears.
[14:54] Breezy Carver: and the clock !
[14:54] Ceejay Writer: At that size, I'm tempting to simply sprawl on the floor in front of it and let it be an immersive experience.
[14:54] Bookworm Hienrichs nods.
[14:54] Viv Trafalgar: mhm
[14:54] Maribelle Bronet laughs.
[14:54] Viv Trafalgar: won't fit in my sack
[14:55] Canolli Capalini: But true to the asthetics of the swiss clock makers, I also started incorporating the music boxes with clocks.
[14:55] Ceejay Writer: Say bye bye, Viv.
[14:55] Viv Trafalgar: booo
[14:55] Bookworm Hienrichs chuckles.
[14:55] Serafina Puchkina grins
[14:55] Viv Trafalgar: oooo
[14:55] Victor1st Mornington: ahhhh clocks with music boxes, i have one of those...plays swan lake as the alarm, real music box tacked on underneath it...
[14:55] Breezy Carver chuckles .. stunning just stunning !!!
[14:56] Victor1st Mornington: ohhhhhhhhhh
[14:56] Stargirl Macbain: Oh my!
[14:56] Sky Netizen: Beautiful!
[14:56] Victor1st Mornington looks for the spider.....
[14:56] Kathy Jameson: I particularly like the spider and web
[14:56] Beq Janus: GORGEOUS
[14:56] Maribelle Bronet claps enthusiastically,"Oh my!"
[14:56] Beq Janus: eek
[14:56] Canolli Capalini: So, as my love with clockworks and music boxes grow.. so do my creations. And really, that is the point of SL, isn't it?
[14:56] Viv Trafalgar: lovely Olli
[14:56] Sky Netizen: Well said.
[14:57] Canolli Capalini: and yes, it plays a music box tune on the hour.
[14:57] Beq Janus can think of no better reason
[14:57] Canolli Capalini: Any other questions abut music boxes? or my music boxes?
[14:57] Viv Trafalgar: Size isn't a limitation in Babbage, the way it was in Europe - well, not in the same way at least
[14:57] Beq Janus: I like the spider
[14:57] Viv Trafalgar: where do you find your inspiration from these?
[14:57] Viv Trafalgar: *For?
[14:57] Viv Trafalgar: they seem to be telling stories of their own
[14:58] Canolli Capalini: Usually.. .. I don't know.
[14:58] Canolli Capalini: Some I dream, some i see something similiar in my first life and i want to make it my own..
[14:58] Canolli Capalini: some.. just sort of create themselves.
[14:58] Marion Questi: This is exquisite.
[14:58] Jasper Kiergarten: where do you find your music sources?
[14:58] Zachary Somerset nods
[14:59] Viv Trafalgar: (last question, I'm afraid)
[14:59] Canolli Capalini grins.. believe it or not Mr. Kiergarten, I make many of them.
[14:59] Jasper Kiergarten: oh?
[14:59] Beq Janus ratchets up her admiration another 5 notches
[14:59] Jasper Kiergarten: midi?
[15:00] Canolli Capalini: I went to college on a music scholarship and can play several instruments. I have a wonderful synthesizer and i use freesound.org to find many of the clicks and whistles and metallic sounds.
[15:00] Canolli Capalini: i use Goldwave as a sound editor.
[15:00] Jasper Kiergarten: <----music major in college
[15:00] Jasper Kiergarten: ahhh
[15:00] Jasper Kiergarten: :)
[15:00] Viv Trafalgar: nods
[15:00] Rowan Derryth: Wow that is impressive!
[15:00] Ceejay Writer: <---- had vinyl records playing in college.
[15:00] Jedburgh30 Dagger: <--drove the bus for music majors in college
[15:00] Jasper Kiergarten: lol
[15:00] Bookworm Hienrichs laughs.
[15:00] Ceejay Writer: :D
[15:00] Beq Janus giggles
[15:00] Stargirl Macbain grins at Jed
[15:00] Canolli Capalini smiles..
[15:00] Zachary Somerset grins
[15:01] Victor1st Mornington: <---tried using goldwave once, still recovering from the nervous breakdown....
[15:01] Jasper Kiergarten: haha
[15:01] Canolli Capalini: I actually found goldwave to be the most intuitive sound editing program i could find.
[15:01] Viv Trafalgar: I'm just about to pick up the speaker's fund - all donations to thsi jar go to the speaker
[15:01] Canolli Capalini: It doesn't have ALL the bells and whistles i would like, but it does work marvelously well for what I want to do with it.
[15:01] Jasper Kiergarten: using Live for midi and Melody assistant for notation
[15:02] Jasper Kiergarten: excellent
[15:02] Canolli Capalini: oh i use an old ratty notebook for notation.
[15:02] Bookworm Hienrichs chuckles.
[15:02] Jasper Kiergarten: hehee
[15:02] Jasper Kiergarten: still have lots of those lying around
[15:02] Viv Trafalgar: and then we invite you to take the gift that Miss Canolli has very wonderfully donated to the salon today - a beautiful new box.
[15:02] Serafina Puchkina applauds
[15:03] Viv Trafalgar: although it is sitting very close to me
[15:03] Bookworm Hienrichs applauds enthusiastically.
[15:03] Kathy Jameson ooohs.
[15:03] Ceejay Writer: Yay Canolli!
[15:03] Marion Questi applauds.
[15:03] Victor1st Mornington cheers
[15:03] Viv Trafalgar: please know you are in no danger of having your fingers slapped
[15:03] Kathy Jameson applauds enthusiastically.
[15:03] Stargirl Macbain applauds!
[15:03] Zachary Somerset applauds
[15:03] Viv Trafalgar: if you reach out for one
[15:03] Breezy Carver: ✰·.·´` Claps Very Loudly!! ´`·.·✰
[15:03] Sky Netizen cheers loudly
[15:03] Ceejay Writer: Shiny pretty music toys for us!
[15:03] Rowan Derryth applauds!
[15:03] Maribelle Bronet claps loudly.
[15:03] Stargirl Macbain: we like shiney new things...
[15:03] Maribelle Bronet: Thank you Olli!!
[15:03] Beq Janus whistles loudly
[15:03] Canolli Capalini: Any other questins? about music boxes? the history of?
[15:03] Viv Trafalgar: and with our Deepest Thanks and appreciation Canolli - who overcame obstacles to be here today
[15:04] Kathy Jameson: Thank you, Miss Capalini!
[15:04] Canolli Capalini: I mean, music boxes have a very deep history.. this was only lighly touching the surface.
[15:04] Saffia Widdershins applauds
[15:04] Breezy Carver watches Viv guarding .. the box ..
[15:04] Beq Janus applauds Olli once more
[15:04] Maribelle Bronet slips one under her arm.
[15:04] Viv Trafalgar: It is a great introduction to them though
[15:04] Bookworm Hienrichs nods.
[15:04] Viv Trafalgar: and perhaps we will explore the subject further
[15:04] Viv Trafalgar: i would like the opportunity to examine that one music box more closely, perhaps for a few hours....?
[15:04] Breezy Carver: *grins*
[15:05] Viv Trafalgar: alone?
[15:05] Beq Janus suspects Viv will
[15:05] Bookworm Hienrichs grins.
[15:05] Victor1st Mornington chuckles
[15:05] Maribelle Bronet smiles.
[15:05] Viv Trafalgar: ok picking up the fund now
[15:05] Serafina Puchkina: Thank you, Miss Canolli! You are indeed a talented and creative artist. Thank you. And thank you, Salon patrons, for your interest and support. If you would like to join the Aether Salon group, please click the sign by the entrance. Our next salon is April 18 with Hotspur Otoole, Ironclads!
[15:05] Canolli Capalini: Oh, and if you are doing the Steam Hunt? one of CFF's prizes is a previously unsold music box.
[15:05] Viv Trafalgar: and turning it over to Miss Capalini - I give you Miss Sera
[15:05] Serafina Puchkina: oops, Sera jumped the gun there
[15:06] Bookworm Hienrichs chuckles.
[15:06] Serafina Puchkina erases that from transcript
[15:06] Jedburgh30 Dagger: <--is not a gun jumper
[15:06] Canolli Capalini: oh, thank you.
[15:06] Serafina Puchkina: We will post an edited and unedited version on the Aether Salon blog http://aethersalon.blogspot.com this week
[15:07] Rowan Derryth: Thank you so much! I must dash, but it was wonderful, and I shall visit your store soon!
[15:07] Beq Janus adds that you can use the very same sign to donate to the Salon's upkeep, as it could do with a lick of poaint here and there
[15:07] Ceejay Writer: Thanks for coming, Rowan!
[15:07] Serafina Puchkina: Thanks, Beq
[15:07] Viv Trafalgar applauds Canolli madly
[15:07] Serafina Puchkina: Thank you all for coming, you are obviously a brilliant and erudite group
[15:07] Rowan Derryth: Thanks for the reminder, Ceejay!
[15:07] Rowan Derryth: Cheers all!
[15:07] Bookworm Hienrichs applauds.
[15:08] Saffia Widdershins: Thank you, it was super!
[15:08] Serafina Puchkina applauds Miss Capalini
[15:08] Canolli Capalini: Thank you all for having me.
[15:08] Maribelle Bronet cheers.
[15:08] Saffia Widdershins: And I must run too ...
[15:08] Ceejay Writer: I am suddenly anxious to rush home and strew all my music boxes on the floor.
[15:08] Victor1st Mornington watches thumper nibble on stargirls tail....
[15:08] Jedburgh30 Dagger: applauds
[15:08] Sky Netizen applauds again
[15:08] Ceejay Writer laughs at Thumper.
[15:08] PJ Trenton is Online
[15:08] Stargirl Macbain thinks Thumper should be careful comming near at cat's tail.....
[15:08] Victor1st Mornington: ceeeeeeeeeeeejay
[15:08] Stargirl Macbain: Tootles all, that was marvelous
[15:09] Ceejay Writer grins and drawls out, "Viiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiictor"
[15:09] Breezy Carver: wavesss take care all !
[15:09] Breezy Carver: and thank YOU !
[15:09] Ceejay Writer: Goodbye, all! Was WONDERFUL.
[15:09] Jasper Kiergarten: bye to all who are leaving
[15:09] Victor1st Mornington: right, off to the hotel, got a few things to fix up in the old place...
[15:09] Jasper Kiergarten: thanks for coming
[15:09] Canolli Capalini: Well, if you'll excuse me.. i'm working on a HUGELY primmy greenhouse.
[15:09] Beq Janus: thank you Olli.
[15:09] Maribelle Bronet waves and drifts off.
[15:09] Bookworm Hienrichs: Thank you, Miss Capalini!
[15:09] Canolli Capalini: Nice seeing you again Beq.
[15:10] Ceejay Writer: I'm going to sneak home and play with music boxes while doing some things. Goodnight, and thank you again, Salonistas and Canolli!
[15:10] Bookworm Hienrichs grins and waves to Ceejay.
[15:10] Canolli Capalini: Goodnight all.
[15:10] Beq Janus: points to her fave little toy :-)
[15:10] Viv Trafalgar: hah
[15:11] Beq Janus: Did you ever see this Viv? It is a wonderful bit of darkness from Olli's imagination
[15:11] Serafina Puchkina: Whew!
[15:11] Viv Trafalgar looks
[15:12] Viv Trafalgar: yes I have -
[15:12] Viv Trafalgar: in fact, that's a favorite...
[15:12] Viv Trafalgar: and Jasper sculpted the hear in there
[15:12] Viv Trafalgar: heart
[15:12] Bookworm Hienrichs chuckles.
[15:12] Viv Trafalgar: so it's a real work of babbage
[15:13] Beq Janus: nice
[15:13] Jasper Kiergarten: :)
[15:13] Viv Trafalgar: we have so many talents -
[15:13] Viv Trafalgar: I hope we can keep up with them
[15:13] Beq Janus: I have captured Jasper's heart