Music Boxes! Edited transcript

Jedburgh30 Dagger: Hello everyone! Ladies and Gentlemen, Viv, Serafina and I are pleased to welcome you to the March Aether Salon - Music Boxes! As a late rez-day present to our Miss Viv, Ms. Canolli Capalini has agreed to talk to us about her music boxes and their history.

As many of you know, the Aether Salon meets to discuss steam and Victorian topics on the third Sunday of each month, in Palisades and Academy, New Babbage. This is our 16th salon and I would like to thank each and every one of you for joining us today. Just a few matters of housekeeping before we get started. If you are standing in the back, please move forward onto the maze so that you can be assured of hearing the speaker. Please hold your questions until the end, and as a courtesy to all, please turn off everything that feeds the lag: all HUDs, scripts, AOs and so on. Please no weapons, rogue scripts, unmetered poetry, or incindiary devices. Your cooperation is appreciated.

Edited and unedited transcripts will be posted this week on aethersalon.blogspot.com so you can revisit today’s merriment, read transcripts of past salons, and for a laugh, peruse “overheard at the salon.” Please join the Aether Salon group and receive notifications of future salon events, click the lower right hand corner of the large brown sign by the entrance. We sincerely appreciate the support we receive from everyone in the community and we humbly thank you all.

Many fine people have contributed to today’s salon: We are grateful to Canolli Capalini of Capalini Fine Furnishings for the wonderful salon chairs, Miss Ceejay Writer, Mr. Rafael Fabre, Miss Redgirl Llewellen, Miss Breezy Carver, Miss Ahnyanka Delphin for the stage and the citizens of New Babbage who make this event possible.

Mark your calendars for next month’s salon, Ironclads with Commodore Hotspur O'Toole. Upcoming Salons will include Photography with Mr PJ Trenton, and Wireless with Miss Gabrielle Riel. As a reminder, all speakers' fund jar donations go directly to the speakers. Now I will turn the stage over to Miss Viv for the introduction of today’s speaker.

Viv Trafalgar: Thank you Jed. Thank you all for coming. Many of you know that Miss Capalini is a talented craftsperson and also the maker of some of my favorite music boxes on the grid; some of you even know that I have been collecting these objects for some time. I love to set out several here and there to enhance a scene or particular story. They are beautifully wrought, extremely detailed, and amazingly well conceived from the music to the interactivity, to the design. Canolli's imagination knows no bounds. We've asked her here to speak today about Music Boxes - as you can tell from the title - let me tell you a few other things about Miss Capalini first

After losing her family to cholera, she was sent to her Uncle Chadsworth Capalini, a carpenter who lived in Lexington, Kentucky. He took her regularly to his woodshop and as Canolli grew, her attention to detail in the woodworking was attributed to the Uncle and his business became known for high quality furniture and chests. Not wishing to lose a valuable commodity, her Uncle kept any suitors away. Uncle Chadsworth disappeared under mysterious circumstances and suspicion was cast upon the young woman. The store was closed and Miss Capalini disappeared. Seven years later, she appeared in New Babbage.

At first, Canolli constructed a chair here and there, donating them to the New Babbage Geographical Society. Seeing the excellence of her work, commissions started rolling in. She was able to open her own store in a few months. She disapproves of excesses and generally carries a bit of food on her person in case she meets an urchin. Friendly, with a soft southern drawl, but wary of crowds, she gets along well in New Babbage. Particularly because no one asks any questions.

Certainly not about her past and not about the hammer she keeps upon her person at all times. Without further ado, please help me in welcoming Miss Canolli Capalini.

Canolli Capalini nods. Thank you for the intro. Ladies and gentlemen, I was asked to speak today as a special favor for Viv's.. long standing addiction.

Not that I have ever eyed her purse and sent a teasing advert for a new box her way.. but music boxes are a subject that is very personal to me. And i suspect, if you are a person that likes music boxes, they carry something personal with them for you as well.

To begin today's talk, let's get some of the technical aspects out of the way.. What is a music box? Our current idea of a music box is a 19th century invention. It produces sounds by the use of a set of pins placed on a revolving cylinder or disc so as to pluck the tuned teeth of a steel comb. They were developed from musical snuff boxes of the 18th century and called carillons à musique. Some of the more complex boxes also have a tiny drum and small bells, in addition to the metal comb. Note that the tone of a musical box is unlike that of any musical instrument.

Now prior to the 18th century.. there were of course, many musical inventions.. dating all the way back to antiquity. Most notably, Heron of Alexandria. He didn't make music boxes that played music, but created inventions that mimicked the calls of birds.. the whispers and sighs of maidens, heraldic trumpets enough to fool the mind into believing they were hearing wisps of music upon the air.

In the 9th century in Persia, two brothers made a set of automatic organs that played continuously driven by water. However, our modern ideal of music boxes was perfected in Switzerland with the watchmakers. As the industrialization of the world hit full stride, music boxes gained even more popularity as the emerging middle classes could suddenly afford to have music at their command in their homes. The more newly moneyed families could even have more complex mechanical creations to imitate full orchestras, hence the orchestrion.. which was nothing more than a hugely elaborate music box that incorporated several instruments.

At the turn of the century, a music box could well have been used as a status symbol, who it was made by and how intricate it could get. Automatons, singing birds, dancing figures. But in the end, the music box was doomed. Thomas Edison, the invention of the phonograph, and the widespread use of radio sealed the fate of these little works of art.

Most of the music box manufacturers actually went out of business at this time, and the beautiful little bits of clockwork were very much becoming extinct. However, something interesting happened. Europe was flooded with Americans fighting in WWII. : Much like any tourist, these soldiers wanted to take home souvenirs to their families, and the little music box began a ressurgence that has not ceased to this day.

Now, the popularity has never revived completely, and to this date there are only two main manufacturers left.. Reuge, SA, still providing fine swiss clockworks.. and the Sankyo japanese company, that does the most of what you see in novelty and automated music boxes.

Now, that's a very base history of music boxes.. and I wasn't sure what people wanted t know.. soo I guess I'll open it up to questions.

Bookworm Hienrichs: I would guess most people would like to know how and why you started making them here, Miss Capalini.

Ceejay Writer: I have a question - or a wonderment. Not sure.

Viv Trafalgar: oh Good first question Book then Ceejay

Canolli Capalini: Well, Miss Hienrichs, I started making music boxes here because.. I guess, i've always wanted to be a bit of a toy maker, and i've always had a particular love of the sound of a music box. It makes me feel as though I'm hearing something.. that maybe I shouldn't be hearing.. like the hint of a far off song, or perhaps a glimpse into another world. Combine that with a love of automatons, and clock work.. it just seemed natural. In other words, I couldn't help myself.

Viv Trafalgar: Miss Writer, next question/wonderment?

Ceejay Writer: I'm fascinated by Heron of Alexandria's work - and I cannot IMAGINE how he made a music box sound like a woman's sighs. Any idea how his mechanics worked?

Canolli Capalini: Heron used a variaty of methods.. but his most common technique was simply steam. He would devise a series of metal pipes and whistles that would be attached to a hidden cistern..

Ceejay Writer: Aaaah! Thank you - I can imagine steam power!

Canolli Capalini: a fire would be lit, and the steam from the liquid would provide airflow.. which in turn would vary as the fire waned and warmed. Actually, i would go so far as to say he is the ORIGINAL Steampunk. Now of course, we don't know exactly how he did a great many of the things he did. We're still unsure exactly how he rigged the doors to Zeus's temple to open the way they did.. but it's a very interesting study.

Rowan Derryth: Miss Capalini, are there any notable collectionsof music boxes that you might know of, for further study?

Canolli Capalini smiles.. if I did make something to honor heron, it would more likely be a clockwork bird of some kind. Well, obviously.. there are the ornate faberge creations.. they weren't all music boxes, but some were and it was very intricately done.

Rowan Derryth: Ah,yes

Canolli Capalini: Also, the Porter Music Box Comapny (which banks today on antique cabinet music boxes).. they have a great museum and history of different kinds of music boxes.. which leads to the variations in tones between the different stylings of mechanisms.

Viv Trafalgar: Where is this museum?

Canolli Capalini: A porter music box sounds extremely different froma Reuge Music box. Randolf, Vermont, Miss Trafalgar. Most of the Reuge and smaller music boxes are cylindrical music boxes. Many of the older and larger companies (Porter included) were mostly the disc variety.. and depending upon how many springs a music box incorporated, determined how long it could play.

Bookworm Hienrichs raises her hand with another question, if no one else has one.

Canolli Capalini: In the modern world (such as Sankyo), many companies are going to a mp3 stylization. Electronic music boxery. Many of the cheaper novelty music boxes that you get.. do not actually have music box movements.. merely a chip. Yes, Miss Hienrichs.. you had another question?

Bookworm Hienrichs: What can you tell us about this large music box to the side? *gesture to the left side of the stage--her left*

Canolli Capalini smiles.. I brought that as an example of a more ornate item. This was actually a box that I made to a customer's specifications for a wedding. Now, it doesn't play music box music.. the customer was very specific about the song for his intended.. and he did not wish it to be music box music. (i can't imagine why) I wanted to show how something personal could be incorporated into an object. The phoenix and unicorn carrying specific meaning.. the other symbols obvious.. we incorporate the use of light when it opens to provide a dramatic feeling of divinement.

Marion Questi: I'm impressed at how you managed to stitch together the sound files so seamlessly... I also brought it because it is one of the few music boxes that will never be sold outside of the customer.

Canolli Capalini: Marion.. when you utilize one of my music boxes.. you'll note before every one, there is moment of preloading. That is how I ensure that the music plays as seamlessly as this medium will allow it, because in SL, your hearing music clientside... so each person here is hearing it just a TAD different from every other person here. That preloading allows a set amount of files to load so it doesn't have to load them as it goes.

We have the same principle here.. this is one of the first boxes I made. This was before I had truly learned what i was doing with animation and sounds fully.. So the sound is weaker, but it is the full 3 minute song.

Bookworm Hienrichs: I love the detail of the landscape picture behind the gears.

Breezy Carver: and the clock !

Ceejay Writer: At that size, I'm tempting to simply sprawl on the floor in front of it and let it be an immersive experience.

Canolli Capalini: But true to the asthetics of the swiss clock makers, I also started incorporating the musicboxes with clocks. So, as my love with clockworks and music boxes grow.. so do my creations. And really, that is the point of SL, isn't it? And yes, it plays a music box tune on the hour. Any other questions abut music boxes? or my music boxes?

Viv Trafalgar: where do you find your inspiration for these? They seem to be telling stories of their own

Canolli Capalini: Usually.. .. I don't know. Some I dream, some i see something similiar in my first life and i want to make it my own ... some.. just sort of create themselves.

Jasper Kiergarten: where do you find your music sources?

Viv Trafalgar: (last question, I'm afraid)

Canolli Capalini grins.. believe it or not Mr. Kiergarten, I make many of them.

Beq Janus ratchets up her admiration another 5 notches

Jasper Kiergarten: midi?

Canolli Capalini: I went to college on a music scholarship and can play several instruments. I have a wonderful synthesizer and i use freesound.org to find many of the clicks and whistles and metallic sounds. I use Goldwave as a sound editor. I actually found goldwave to be the most intuitive sound editing program i could find.

Viv Trafalgar: I'm just about to pick up the speaker's fund - all donations to thsi jar go to the speaker

Canolli Capalini: It doesn't have ALL the bells and whistles i would like, but it does work marvelously well for what I want to do with it.

Jasper Kiergarten: using Live for midi and Melody assistant for notation. Excellent

Canolli Capalini: oh i use an old ratty notebook for notation.

Viv Trafalgar: and then we invite you to take the gift that Miss Canolli has very wonderfully donated to the salon today - a beautiful new box. Although it is sitting very close to me, please know you are in no danger of having your fingers slapped if you reach out for one

Canolli Capalini: Any other questins? about music boxes? the history of?

Viv Trafalgar: and with our Deepest Thanks and appreciation Canolli - who overcame obstacles to be here today

Kathy Jameson: Thank you, Miss Capalini!

Canolli Capalini: I mean, music boxes have a very deep history.. this was only lighly touching the surface.

Serafina Puchkina: Thank you, Miss Canolli! You are indeed a talented and creative artist. Thank you. And thank you, Salon patrons, for your interest and support. If you would like to join the Aether Salon group, please click the sign by the entrance. Our next salon is April 18 with Hotspur Otoole, Ironclads!

Canolli Capalini: Oh, and if you are doing the Steam Hunt? one of CFF's prizes is a previously unsold music box.

Beq Janus adds that you can use the very same sign to donate to the Salon's upkeep, as it could do with a lick of poaint here and there

Music Boxes! Unedited transcript

[13:57] Canolli Capalini: Hello Sera
[13:57] Viv Trafalgar: Hello Miss Jameson, Hello Miss Capalini!
[13:57] Serafina Puchkina: Hello! okay, your stage is ready!!
[13:57] Serafina Puchkina: Welcome
[13:58] Serafina Puchkina: Hello Miss Jameson
[13:58] Beq Janus: thank the gods for that Olli is here. I thought we were going to have to have Jed talking about music boxes and that would have been a far different salon
[13:58] Kathy Jameson: Good afternoon, Miss Puchkina.
[13:59] Rowan Derryth: Good afternoon everyone
[13:59] Stargirl Macbain: Hullo!
[13:59] Jasper Kiergarten is Offline
[13:59] Bookworm Hienrichs: Good day, Miss Derryth.
[13:59] Sky Netizen: Afternoon. :-)
[13:59] Serafina Puchkina: Hello Miss Derryth!
[13:59] Viv Trafalgar: WElcome Rowan!
[13:59] Maribelle Bronet: Good afternoon.
[13:59] Beq Janus: Hi Rowan
[13:59] Jasper Kiergarten is Online
[14:00] Rowan Derryth: rez rez rez
[14:00] Jasper Kiergarten: if anyone asked for a chair while I was crashing, my apologies
[14:00] Bookworm Hienrichs: Hmmm. So far, there seems to be a distinct lack of the non-distaff sex.
[14:01] Bookworm Hienrichs grins.
[14:01] Jasper Kiergarten: and you'll need to ask again :)
[14:01] Saffia Widdershins: Hi Rowan!
[14:01] Marion Questi: Hello Miss Trafalgar, Miss Puchkina..^^
[14:01] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Astute observation Book
[14:01] Serafina Puchkina: Welcome Mr. Questi!
[14:01] Viv Trafalgar: Welcome Mr. Questi, Dame Malaprop!
[14:01] Marion Questi: Dame Ordinal!
[14:01] Marion Questi: How very nice to see you,
[14:02] Serafina Puchkina: Welcome Miss Malaprop
[14:02] Jasper Kiergarten: greetings
[14:02] Ordinal Malaprop: Hello all.
[14:02] Marion Questi: Greetings Mr Kiergarten.
[14:02] Jasper Kiergarten: how are you sir?
[14:02] Jasper Kiergarten: and hello Miss Malprop
[14:02] Serafina Puchkina: Again before we begin, need a chair, ask Jasper. One of Miss Capalini's creations.
[14:03] Serafina Puchkina: the chair, not Jasper
[14:03] Viv Trafalgar: LOL
[14:03] Bookworm Hienrichs laughs.
[14:03] Sky Netizen smirks
[14:03] Kathy Jameson laughs
[14:03] Viv Trafalgar: please do come in and be seated
[14:03] Jedburgh30 Dagger: I don't know if she wants credit for that one
[14:03] Jasper Kiergarten: shuffles feet nervously
[14:03] Jedburgh30 Dagger: *clears throat*
[14:04] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Hello everyone! Ladies and Gentlemen, Viv, Serafina and I are pleased to welcome you to the March Aether Salon - Music Boxes! As a late rez-day present to our Miss Viv, Ms. Canolli Capalini has agreed to talk to us about her music boxes and their history.
[14:04] Jedburgh30 Dagger: As many of you know, the Aether Salon meets to discuss steam and Victorian topics on the third Sunday of each month, in Palisades and Academy, New Babbage. This is our 16th salon and I would like to thank each and every one of you for joining us today
[14:04] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Just a few matters of housekeeping before we get started. If you are standing in the back, please move forward onto the maze so that you can be assured of hearing the speaker. Please hold your questions until the end, and as a courtesy to all, please turn off everything that feeds the lag: all HUDs, scripts, AOs and so on. Please no weapons, rogue scripts, unmetered poetry, or incindiary devices. Your cooperation is appreciated.
[14:05] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Edited and unedited transcripts will be posted this week on aethersalon.blogspot.com so you can revisit today’s merriment, read transcripts of past salons, and for a laugh, peruse “overheard at the salon.” Please join the Aether Salon group and receive notifications of future salon events, click the lower right hand corner of the large brown sign by the entrance. We sincerely appreciate the support we receive from everyone in the community and we humbly thank you all.
[14:06] Viv Trafalgar: ::grins::
[14:06] Viv Trafalgar was just sorting through a long list of music boxes
[14:06] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Many fine people have contributed to today’s salon: We are grateful to Canolli Capalini of Capalini Fine Furnishings for the wonderful salon chairs, Miss Ceejay Writer, Mr. Rafael Fabre, Miss Redgirl Llewellen, Miss Breezy Carver, Miss Ahnyanka Delphin for the stage and the citizens of New Babbage who make this event possible.
[14:07] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Mark your calendars for next month’s salon, Ironclads with Commodore Hotspur O'Toole. Upcoming Salons will include Photography with Mr PJ Trenton, and Wireless with Miss Gabrielle Riel. As a reminder, all speakers' fund jar donations go directly to the speakers.
[14:07] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Now I will turn the stage over to Miss Viv for the introduction of today’s speaker.
[14:07] Bookworm Hienrichs applauds.
[14:07] Viv Trafalgar: Thank you Jed
[14:08] Viv Trafalgar: Thank you all for coming
[14:08] Viv Trafalgar: Many of you know that Miss Capalini is a talented craftsperson
[14:08] Viv Trafalgar: and also the maker of some of my favorite music boxes on the grid;
[14:08] Viv Trafalgar: some of you even know that I have been collecting these objects for some time.
[14:08] Viv Trafalgar: I love to set out several here and there to enhance a scene or particular story.
[14:08] Viv Trafalgar: They are beautifully wrought, extremely detailed, and amazingly well conceived
[14:08] Viv Trafalgar: from the music to the interactivity, to the design. Canolli's imagination knows no bounds.
[14:09] Viv Trafalgar: We've asked her here to speak today about Music Boxes - as you can tell from the title -
[14:09] Viv Trafalgar: let me tell you a few other things about Miss Capalini first
[14:09] Viv Trafalgar: After losing her family to cholera, she was sent to her Uncle Chadsworth Capalini,
[14:09] Viv Trafalgar: a carpenter who lived in Lexington, Kentucky.
He took her regularly to his woodshop and as Canolli grew, her attention to detail in the woodworking was attributed to the Uncle
[14:09] Viv Trafalgar: and his business became known for high quality furniture and chests
[14:09] Viv Trafalgar: Not wishing to lose a valuable commodity, her Uncle kept any suitors away. Uncle Chadsworth disappeared under mysterious circumstances and suspicion was cast upon the young woman.
[14:10] Ordinal Malaprop: Boo!
[14:10] Viv Trafalgar: the store was closed and Miss Capalini disappeared.
[14:10] Kathy Jameson: Oh my!
[14:10] Viv Trafalgar: Seven years later, she appeared in New Babbage.
[14:10] Viv Trafalgar: At first, Canolli constructed a chair here and there, donating them to the New Babbage Geographical Society. Seeing the excellence of her work, commissions started rolling in. She was able to open her own store in a few months.
[14:10] Viv Trafalgar: She disapproves of excesses and generally carries a bit of food on her person in case she meets an urchin.
[14:10] Viv Trafalgar: Friendly, with a soft southern drawl, but wary of crowds, she gets along well in New Babbage.
[14:10] Viv Trafalgar: Particularly because no one asks any questions.
[14:10] Viv Trafalgar: Certainly not about her past and not about the hammer she keeps upon her person at all times.
[14:11] Viv Trafalgar casts a longing glance at the music box on stage that she definitively does NOT have yet
[14:11] Viv Trafalgar: Without further ado, please help me in welcoming Miss Canolli Capalini.
[14:11] Bookworm Hienrichs chuckles and applauds.
[14:11] Kathy Jameson applauds
[14:11] Breezy Carver: ✰·.·´` Claps Very Loudly!! ´`·.·✰
[14:11] Serafina Puchkina applauds
[14:11] Ceejay Writer applauds till her hands hurt.
[14:11] Sky Netizen applauds
[14:11] Canolli Capalini nods. Thank you for the intro
[14:11] Beq Janus claps
[14:11] Maribelle Bronet claps and claps
[14:11] Viv Trafalgar: Thank you for being here!
[14:11] Breezy Carver smiles
[14:11] Stargirl Macbain applauds madly
[14:11] Breezy Carver: ☆smiles ☆
[14:12] Canolli Capalini: Ladies and gentlemen, I was asked to speak today as a special favor for Viv's.. long standing addiction.
[14:12] Ceejay Writer chuckles.
[14:12] Viv Trafalgar blushes
[14:13] Canolli Capalini: Not that I have ever eyed her purse and sent a teasing advert for a new box her way.. but music boxes are a subject that is very personal to me.
[14:13] Canolli Capalini: and i suspect, if you are a person that likes music boxes, they carry something personal with them for you as well.
[14:14] Canolli Capalini: To begin today's talk, let's get some of the technical aspects out of the way.. What is a music box?
[14:15] Canolli Capalini: Our current idea of a music box is a 19th century invention.
[14:15] Canolli Capalini: It produces sounds by the use of a set of pins placed on a revolving cylinder or disc so as to pluck the tuned teeth of a steel comb. They were developed from musical snuff boxes of the 18th century and called carillons à musique. Some of the more complex boxes also have a tiny drum and small bells, in addition to the metal comb. Note that the tone of a musical box is unlike that of any musical instrument.
[14:16] Viv Trafalgar nods.
[14:16] Breezy Carver: ☆smiles ☆
[14:17] Canolli Capalini: Now prior to the 18th century.. there were of course, many musical inventions.. dating all the way back to antiquity. Most notably, Heron of Alexandria. He didn't make music boxes that played music, but created inventions that mimicked the calls of birds.. the whispers and sighs of maidens, heraldic trumpets enough to fool the mind into believing they were hearing wisps of music upon the air.
[14:18] Bookworm Hienrichs chuckles.
[14:18] Ceejay Writer mutters. "So the music boxes were our competition."
[14:18] Canolli Capalini: In the 9th century in Persia, two brothers made a set of automatic organs that played continuously driven by water.
[14:18] Rowan Derryth grins
[14:18] Viv Trafalgar learns something new every time
[14:20] Canolli Capalini: However, our modern ideal of music boxes was perfected in Switzerland with the watchmakers.
[14:21] Ceejay Writer: Clockwork, huzzah.
[14:21] Stargirl Macbain smiles
[14:21] Canolli Capalini: As the industrialization of the world hit full stride, music boxes gained even more popularity as the emerging middle classes could suddenly afford to have music at their command in their homes.
[14:21] Serafina Puchkina: interesting!
[14:21] Breezy Carver nods
[14:22] Canolli Capalini: The more newly moneyed families could even have more complex mechanical creations to imitate full orchestras, hence the orchestrion.. which was nothing more than a hugely elaborate music box that incorporated several instruments.
[14:23] Canolli Capalini: At the turn of the century, a music box could well have been used as a status symbol, who it was made by and how intricate it could get.
[14:23] Canolli Capalini: Automatons, singing birds, dancing figures.
[14:23] Viv Trafalgar: ahh. that makes sense
[14:23] Breezy Carver ponders and imagines a tiny tiny orchestra in every box ...
[14:24] Viv Trafalgar: nodnodno
[14:24] Viv Trafalgar: d
[14:24] Canolli Capalini: But in the end, the music box was doomed.
[14:24] Viv Trafalgar: NO!!!!!!!!!
[14:24] Ceejay Writer frowns.
[14:24] Breezy Carver gasp !!
[14:24] Viv Trafalgar: ::coughs delicately into a kerchief::
[14:24] Sky Netizen gasps
[14:24] Canolli Capalini: Thomas Edison, the invention of the phonograph, and the widespread use of radio sealed the fate of these little works of art.
[14:25] Beq Janus: would be a man's fault
[14:25] Breezy Carver fans .. fans .. sigh ..
[14:25] Kathy Jameson: Curse that Edison!
[14:25] Stargirl Macbain: Darn that Edison!
[14:25] Ceejay Writer schemes a very late protest.
[14:25] Maribelle Bronet hides a smile.
[14:26] Canolli Capalini: Most of the music box manufacturers actually went out of business at this time, and the beautiful little bits of clockwork were very much becoming extinct.
[14:26] Breezy Carver wipes away lost tears
[14:26] Ceejay Writer wants to start a revival.
[14:26] Canolli Capalini: However, something interesting happened. Europe was flooded with Americans fighting in WWII.
[14:27] Breezy Carver looks up ..
[14:28] Canolli Capalini: Much like any tourist, these soldiers wanted to take home souvenirs to their families, and the little music box began a ressurgence that has not ceased to this day.
[14:28] Breezy Carver: yay ☆smiles ☆
[14:28] Stargirl Macbain: Now that I would have never guessed at.
[14:28] Mosseveno Tenk is Online
[14:29] Ceejay Writer: Wonderful tidbit of history.
[14:29] Canolli Capalini: Now, the popularity has never revived completely, and to this date there are only two main manufacturers left.. Reuge, SA, still providing fine swiss clockworks.. and the Sankyo japanese company, that does the most of what you see in novelty and automated music boxes.
[14:29] Viv Trafalgar: wonders if most of the music box makers are in Europe
[14:29] Viv Trafalgar: ahaha
[14:29] Breezy Carver grins
[14:29] Canolli Capalini: Now, that's a very base history of music boxes.. and I wasn't sure what people wanted t know.. soo I guess I'll open it up to questions.
[14:30] Breezy Carver: ✰·.·´` Claps Very Loudly!! ´`·.·✰
[14:30] Ceejay Writer applauds!
[14:30] Kathy Jameson applauds
[14:30] Sky Netizen applauds!
[14:30] Rowan Derryth applauds vigorously
[14:30] Stargirl Macbain claps!
[14:30] Bookworm Hienrichs: I would guess most people would like to know how and why you started making them here, Miss Capalini.
[14:30] Saffia Widdershins applauds
[14:30] Bookworm Hienrichs smiles.
[14:30] Viv Trafalgar: that's a lot of new information for me Olli!
[14:30] Elica Bowenford: applauds
[14:30] Ceejay Writer: I have a question - or a wonderment. Not sure.
[14:30] Viv Trafalgar: oh Good first question Book
[14:30] Zachary Somerset applauds
[14:30] Viv Trafalgar: then Ceejay
[14:30] Canolli Capalini: Well, Miss Hienrichs, I started making music boxes here because..
[14:31] Canolli Capalini: I guess, i've always wanted to be a bit of a toy maker, and i've always had a particular love of the sound of a music box.
[14:31] Breezy Carver: ☆smiles ☆
[14:31] Canolli Capalini: it makes me feel as though I'm hearing something.. that maybe I shouldn't be hearing.. like the hint of a far off song, or perhaps a glimpse into another world.
[14:31] Viv Trafalgar grins
[14:31] Ceejay Writer smiles. "Good reasons"
[14:31] Breezy Carver: awww ☆smiles ☆
[14:31] Canolli Capalini: Combine that with a love of automatons, and clock work.. it just seemed natural.
[14:32] Sky Netizen smiles
[14:32] Canolli Capalini: in other words, I couldn't help myself.
[14:32] Maribelle Bronet smiles warmly.
[14:32] Bookworm Hienrichs chuckles.
[14:32] Maribelle Bronet: Good for you nad us!
[14:32] Viv Trafalgar: Miss Writer, next question/wonderment?
[14:32] Maribelle Bronet: nad = and >_>
[14:32] Canolli Capalini smiles.. Miss Writer, you had a question?
[14:33] Ceejay Writer: I'm fascinated by Heron of Alexandria's work - and I cannot IMAGINE how he made a music box sound like a woman's sighs. Any idea how his mechanics worked?
[14:33] Beq Janus: mp3
[14:33] Kathy Jameson giggles.
[14:33] Bookworm Hienrichs snickers.
[14:33] Ceejay Writer: Hah!
[14:33] Zachary Somerset chuckles
[14:34] Canolli Capalini: Heron used a variety of methods.. but his most common technique was simply steam. He would devise a series of metal pipes and whistles that would be attached to a hidden cistern..
[14:34] Viv Trafalgar thinks quietly that it sounds a bit ... risque?
[14:34] Ceejay Writer: Aaaah! Thank you - I can imagine steam power!
[14:34] Canolli Capalini: a fire would be lit, and the steam from the liquid would provide airflow.. which in turn would vary as the fire waned and warmed.
[14:34] Kathy Jameson: No decency in the 9th century. That was the trouble.
[14:35] Serafina Puchkina chuckles
[14:35] Canolli Capalini: Actually, i wuld go so far as to say he is the ORIGINAL Steampunk.
[14:35] Beq Janus: music to my ears :-)
[14:35] Sky Netizen smirks
[14:35] Viv Trafalgar: !! Headline !!
[14:35] Stargirl Macbain grins
[14:35] Maribelle Bronet laughs
[14:35] Rowan Derryth: Maybe a limited edition box in his honour is in order?
[14:35] Canolli Capalini: Now of course, we don't know exactly how he did a great many of the things he did.
[14:35] Viv Trafalgar: o.O
[14:36] Ceejay Writer: Good idea, Rowan.
[14:36] Rowan Derryth: Viv can be first in line for it.
[14:36] Beq Janus: I think Elfod could help build that, as it would be the size of a house
[14:36] Canolli Capalini: We're still unsure exactly how he rigged the doors to Zeus's temple to open the way they did..
[14:36] Canolli Capalini: But it's a very interesting study.
[14:37] Ceejay Writer: I need to study more in this realm.
[14:37] Viv Trafalgar sharpens her elbows in order to help her be first in line
[14:37] Bookworm Hienrichs laughs.
[14:37] Ceejay Writer eyebrows.
[14:37] Rowan Derryth: Miss Capalini, are there any notable collections of music boxes that you might know of, for further study?
[14:37] Canolli Capalini smiles.. if I did make something to honor heron, it would more likely be a clockwork bird of some kind.
[14:37] Beq Janus ties Viv's laces together
[14:38] Ceejay Writer ties the tied laces to the chair legs.
[14:38] Canolli Capalini: Well, obviously.. there are the ornate faberge creations.. they weren't all music boxes, but some were and it was very intricately done.
[14:38] Viv Trafalgar: ... a clockwork ... heron ... music box perhaps?
[14:38] Stargirl Macbain chuckles
[14:38] Rowan Derryth: Ah,yes
[14:38] Breezy Carver: whispers hello to thumper .. and and waves to Victor .. grins
[14:38] Canolli Capalini: Also, the Porter Music Box Comapny (which banks today on antique cabinet music boxes).. they have a great museum and history of different kinds of music boxes..
[14:39] Victor1st Mornington waves to miss breezy
[14:39] Canolli Capalini: which leads to the variations in tones between the different stylings of mechanisms.
[14:39] Ceejay Writer whispers. "Viiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiictor."
[14:39] Viv Trafalgar: Where is this museum?
[14:39] Canolli Capalini: A porter music box sounds extremely different froma Reuge Music box.
[14:40] Canolli Capalini: Randolf, Vermont, Miss Trafalgar.
[14:40] Breezy Carver: oh like those teddy bears of the future .. (( laughs))
[14:40] Canolli Capalini: Most of the Reuge and smaller music boxes are cylindrical music boxes.
[14:40] Viv Trafalgar goes to wind the clockwork bicycle
[14:41] Canolli Capalini: Many of the older and larger companies (Porter included) were mostly the disc variety..
[14:41] Canolli Capalini: and depending upon how many springs a music box incorporated, determined how long it could play.
[14:41] Bookworm Hienrichs: Interesting.
[14:42] Bookworm Hienrichs raises her hand with another question, if no one else has one.
[14:42] Canolli Capalini: In the modern world (such as Sankyo), many companies are going to a mp3 stylization.
[14:42] Canolli Capalini: electronic music boxery.
[14:42] Kathy Jameson: Egads!
[14:42] Victor1st Mornington: neighbour has one of those, electronic music box...it lacks warmth in the sound :(
[14:42] Canolli Capalini: many of the cheaper novelty music boxes that you get.. do not actually have music box movements.. merely a chip.
[14:43] Beq Janus: ugh
[14:43] Viv Trafalgar: that seems ... to have some horific implications - as if one would want a talking electric bear
[14:43] Canolli Capalini: Yes, Miss Hienrichs.. you had another question?
[14:43] Rowan Derryth: Like those horrible 80s greeting cards
[14:43] Beq Janus: isn't that like a novelty door chime?
[14:43] Stargirl Macbain: Ugh.
[14:43] Kathy Jameson: Next thing you know, they'll be making watches without movements.
[14:43] Bookworm Hienrichs: What can you tell us about this large music box to the side? *gesture to the left side of the stage--her left*
[14:43] Rowan Derryth: Some people might think such watches were a pretty neat idea.
[14:44] Canolli Capalini smiles.. I brought that as an example of a more ornate item. This was actually a box that I made to a customer's specifications for a wedding.
[14:44] Viv Trafalgar: has never seen THAT before
[14:44] Beq Janus giggles at Viv
[14:44] Viv Trafalgar tries not to stare
[14:44] Canolli Capalini: Now, it doesn't play music box music.. the customer was very specific about the song for his intended.. and he did not wish it to be music box music.
[14:44] Canolli Capalini: (i can't imagine why)
[14:44] Victor1st Mornington: o.O
[14:45] Breezy Carver: WOW !!!!!!
[14:45] Bookworm Hienrichs: Oh, lovely!
[14:45] Breezy Carver: WOW!!!!!
[14:45] Victor1st Mornington: ohhhhhhhh Etta James :)
[14:45] Ceejay Writer: That's..... so romantic.
[14:45] Viv Trafalgar: oh wow
[14:45] Serafina Puchkina sighs
[14:45] Ceejay Writer: I hope she was very appreciative!
[14:45] Stargirl Macbain: Ohhh!
[14:45] Sky Netizen smiles
[14:45] Maribelle Bronet: Lovely!
[14:46] Canolli Capalini: i wanted to show how something personal could be incorporated into an object.
[14:46] Rowan Derryth smiles romantically
[14:46] Victor1st Mornington: whoever it was, they have a good taste in music...
[14:46] Maribelle Bronet nods in agreement
[14:47] Canolli Capalini: The phoenix and unicorn carrying specific meaning.. the other symbols obvious..
[14:47] Bookworm Hienrichs snaps frantically.
[14:47] Canolli Capalini: we incorporate the use of light when it opens to provide a dramatic feeling of divinement.
[14:47] Viv Trafalgar goes to get a sack
[14:47] Breezy Carver: grins
[14:47] Viv Trafalgar: .... and some rope, I'll need rope
[14:47] Breezy Carver swoons to the song ..
[14:47] Viv Trafalgar realizes she is thinking aloud and looks innocent
[14:48] Serafina Puchkina thinks about restraining Viv and decides she values her arm too much
[14:48] Bookworm Hienrichs laughs.
[14:48] Marion Questi: I'm impressed at how you managed to stitch together the sound files so seamlessly...
[14:48] Rowan Derryth shakes her head at Viv.
[14:48] Breezy Carver: oh and the detail of the wood and grain and yess the contents of course !!
[14:48] Canolli Capalini: I also brought it because it is one of the few music boxes that will never be sold outside of the customer.
[14:48] Bookworm Hienrichs nods.
[14:48] Viv Trafalgar:
[14:48] Ceejay Writer: As it should be. One of a kind.
[14:48] Viv Trafalgar looks at the floor
[14:48] Beq Janus looks at Viv to see the look on her face
[14:49] Canolli Capalini: Marion.. when you utilize one of my music boxes.. you'll note before every one, there is moment of preloading.
[14:49] Breezy Carver: awww
[14:49] Ceejay Writer: I think we will all leave daydreaming of having a special music box of our own someday.
[14:49] Canolli Capalini: That is how I ensure that the music plays as seamlessly as this medium will allow it.
[14:49] Viv Trafalgar: nods - agreed Ceejay
[14:49] Rowan Derryth agrees wistfully with Ceejay
[14:50] Canolli Capalini: because in SL, your hearing music clientside... so each person here is hearing it just a TAD different from every other person here.
[14:50] Ceejay Writer: *nod* True point.
[14:50] Breezy Carver: loud and clear here ☆smiles ☆
[14:50] Canolli Capalini: that preloading allows a set amount of files to load so it doesn't have to load them as it goes.
[14:50] Breezy Carver: and i am across the room
[14:51] Bookworm Hienrichs: Truly amazing work, Miss Capalini!
[14:51] Bookworm Hienrichs eeps!
[14:51] Viv Trafalgar looks
[14:51] Serafina Puchkina: wowsers!
[14:51] Kathy Jameson: My goodness!
[14:52] Ceejay Writer feels faint.
[14:52] Canolli Capalini: We have the same principle here.. this is one of the first boxes I made.
[14:52] Serafina Puchkina: that's truly impressive
[14:52] Bookworm Hienrichs goggles.
[14:52] Viv Trafalgar: doesn't have THIS either
[14:52] Victor1st Mornington: i was sorely tempted to buy that when i seen it at the sgop...
[14:52] Viv Trafalgar: how is this possible??
[14:52] Victor1st Mornington: *shop
[14:52] Victor1st Mornington: well, it looked that that one
[14:53] Breezy Carver: grins
[14:53] Canolli Capalini: This was before I had truly learned what i was doing with animation and sounds fully.. So the sound is weaker, but it is the full 3 minute song.
[14:53] Maribelle Bronet: It's marvelous!
[14:54] Bookworm Hienrichs: I love the detail of the landscape picture behind the gears.
[14:54] Breezy Carver: and the clock !
[14:54] Ceejay Writer: At that size, I'm tempting to simply sprawl on the floor in front of it and let it be an immersive experience.
[14:54] Bookworm Hienrichs nods.
[14:54] Viv Trafalgar: mhm
[14:54] Maribelle Bronet laughs.
[14:54] Viv Trafalgar: won't fit in my sack
[14:55] Canolli Capalini: But true to the asthetics of the swiss clock makers, I also started incorporating the music boxes with clocks.
[14:55] Ceejay Writer: Say bye bye, Viv.
[14:55] Viv Trafalgar: booo
[14:55] Bookworm Hienrichs chuckles.
[14:55] Serafina Puchkina grins
[14:55] Viv Trafalgar: oooo
[14:55] Victor1st Mornington: ahhhh clocks with music boxes, i have one of those...plays swan lake as the alarm, real music box tacked on underneath it...
[14:55] Breezy Carver chuckles .. stunning just stunning !!!
[14:56] Victor1st Mornington: ohhhhhhhhhh
[14:56] Stargirl Macbain: Oh my!
[14:56] Sky Netizen: Beautiful!
[14:56] Victor1st Mornington looks for the spider.....
[14:56] Kathy Jameson: I particularly like the spider and web
[14:56] Beq Janus: GORGEOUS
[14:56] Maribelle Bronet claps enthusiastically,"Oh my!"
[14:56] Beq Janus: eek
[14:56] Canolli Capalini: So, as my love with clockworks and music boxes grow.. so do my creations. And really, that is the point of SL, isn't it?
[14:56] Viv Trafalgar: lovely Olli
[14:56] Sky Netizen: Well said.
[14:57] Canolli Capalini: and yes, it plays a music box tune on the hour.
[14:57] Beq Janus can think of no better reason
[14:57] Canolli Capalini: Any other questions abut music boxes? or my music boxes?
[14:57] Viv Trafalgar: Size isn't a limitation in Babbage, the way it was in Europe - well, not in the same way at least
[14:57] Beq Janus: I like the spider
[14:57] Viv Trafalgar: where do you find your inspiration from these?
[14:57] Viv Trafalgar: *For?
[14:57] Viv Trafalgar: they seem to be telling stories of their own
[14:58] Canolli Capalini: Usually.. .. I don't know.
[14:58] Canolli Capalini: Some I dream, some i see something similiar in my first life and i want to make it my own..
[14:58] Canolli Capalini: some.. just sort of create themselves.
[14:58] Marion Questi: This is exquisite.
[14:58] Jasper Kiergarten: where do you find your music sources?
[14:58] Zachary Somerset nods
[14:59] Viv Trafalgar: (last question, I'm afraid)
[14:59] Canolli Capalini grins.. believe it or not Mr. Kiergarten, I make many of them.
[14:59] Jasper Kiergarten: oh?
[14:59] Beq Janus ratchets up her admiration another 5 notches
[14:59] Jasper Kiergarten: midi?
[15:00] Canolli Capalini: I went to college on a music scholarship and can play several instruments. I have a wonderful synthesizer and i use freesound.org to find many of the clicks and whistles and metallic sounds.
[15:00] Canolli Capalini: i use Goldwave as a sound editor.
[15:00] Jasper Kiergarten: <----music major in college
[15:00] Jasper Kiergarten: ahhh
[15:00] Jasper Kiergarten: :)
[15:00] Viv Trafalgar: nods
[15:00] Rowan Derryth: Wow that is impressive!
[15:00] Ceejay Writer: <---- had vinyl records playing in college.
[15:00] Jedburgh30 Dagger: <--drove the bus for music majors in college
[15:00] Jasper Kiergarten: lol
[15:00] Bookworm Hienrichs laughs.
[15:00] Ceejay Writer: :D
[15:00] Beq Janus giggles
[15:00] Stargirl Macbain grins at Jed
[15:00] Canolli Capalini smiles..
[15:00] Zachary Somerset grins
[15:01] Victor1st Mornington: <---tried using goldwave once, still recovering from the nervous breakdown....
[15:01] Jasper Kiergarten: haha
[15:01] Canolli Capalini: I actually found goldwave to be the most intuitive sound editing program i could find.
[15:01] Viv Trafalgar: I'm just about to pick up the speaker's fund - all donations to thsi jar go to the speaker
[15:01] Canolli Capalini: It doesn't have ALL the bells and whistles i would like, but it does work marvelously well for what I want to do with it.
[15:01] Jasper Kiergarten: using Live for midi and Melody assistant for notation
[15:02] Jasper Kiergarten: excellent
[15:02] Canolli Capalini: oh i use an old ratty notebook for notation.
[15:02] Bookworm Hienrichs chuckles.
[15:02] Jasper Kiergarten: hehee
[15:02] Jasper Kiergarten: still have lots of those lying around
[15:02] Viv Trafalgar: and then we invite you to take the gift that Miss Canolli has very wonderfully donated to the salon today - a beautiful new box.
[15:02] Serafina Puchkina applauds
[15:03] Viv Trafalgar: although it is sitting very close to me
[15:03] Bookworm Hienrichs applauds enthusiastically.
[15:03] Kathy Jameson ooohs.
[15:03] Ceejay Writer: Yay Canolli!
[15:03] Marion Questi applauds.
[15:03] Victor1st Mornington cheers
[15:03] Viv Trafalgar: please know you are in no danger of having your fingers slapped
[15:03] Kathy Jameson applauds enthusiastically.
[15:03] Stargirl Macbain applauds!
[15:03] Zachary Somerset applauds
[15:03] Viv Trafalgar: if you reach out for one
[15:03] Breezy Carver: ✰·.·´` Claps Very Loudly!! ´`·.·✰
[15:03] Sky Netizen cheers loudly
[15:03] Ceejay Writer: Shiny pretty music toys for us!
[15:03] Rowan Derryth applauds!
[15:03] Maribelle Bronet claps loudly.
[15:03] Stargirl Macbain: we like shiney new things...
[15:03] Maribelle Bronet: Thank you Olli!!
[15:03] Beq Janus whistles loudly
[15:03] Canolli Capalini: Any other questins? about music boxes? the history of?
[15:03] Viv Trafalgar: and with our Deepest Thanks and appreciation Canolli - who overcame obstacles to be here today
[15:04] Kathy Jameson: Thank you, Miss Capalini!
[15:04] Canolli Capalini: I mean, music boxes have a very deep history.. this was only lighly touching the surface.
[15:04] Saffia Widdershins applauds
[15:04] Breezy Carver watches Viv guarding .. the box ..
[15:04] Beq Janus applauds Olli once more
[15:04] Maribelle Bronet slips one under her arm.
[15:04] Viv Trafalgar: It is a great introduction to them though
[15:04] Bookworm Hienrichs nods.
[15:04] Viv Trafalgar: and perhaps we will explore the subject further
[15:04] Viv Trafalgar: i would like the opportunity to examine that one music box more closely, perhaps for a few hours....?
[15:04] Breezy Carver: *grins*
[15:05] Viv Trafalgar: alone?
[15:05] Beq Janus suspects Viv will
[15:05] Bookworm Hienrichs grins.
[15:05] Victor1st Mornington chuckles
[15:05] Maribelle Bronet smiles.
[15:05] Viv Trafalgar: ok picking up the fund now
[15:05] Serafina Puchkina: Thank you, Miss Canolli! You are indeed a talented and creative artist. Thank you. And thank you, Salon patrons, for your interest and support. If you would like to join the Aether Salon group, please click the sign by the entrance. Our next salon is April 18 with Hotspur Otoole, Ironclads!
[15:05] Canolli Capalini: Oh, and if you are doing the Steam Hunt? one of CFF's prizes is a previously unsold music box.
[15:05] Viv Trafalgar: and turning it over to Miss Capalini - I give you Miss Sera
[15:05] Serafina Puchkina: oops, Sera jumped the gun there
[15:06] Bookworm Hienrichs chuckles.
[15:06] Serafina Puchkina erases that from transcript
[15:06] Jedburgh30 Dagger: <--is not a gun jumper
[15:06] Canolli Capalini: oh, thank you.
[15:06] Serafina Puchkina: We will post an edited and unedited version on the Aether Salon blog http://aethersalon.blogspot.com this week
[15:07] Rowan Derryth: Thank you so much! I must dash, but it was wonderful, and I shall visit your store soon!
[15:07] Beq Janus adds that you can use the very same sign to donate to the Salon's upkeep, as it could do with a lick of poaint here and there
[15:07] Ceejay Writer: Thanks for coming, Rowan!
[15:07] Serafina Puchkina: Thanks, Beq
[15:07] Viv Trafalgar applauds Canolli madly
[15:07] Serafina Puchkina: Thank you all for coming, you are obviously a brilliant and erudite group
[15:07] Rowan Derryth: Thanks for the reminder, Ceejay!
[15:07] Rowan Derryth: Cheers all!
[15:07] Bookworm Hienrichs applauds.
[15:08] Saffia Widdershins: Thank you, it was super!
[15:08] Serafina Puchkina applauds Miss Capalini
[15:08] Canolli Capalini: Thank you all for having me.
[15:08] Maribelle Bronet cheers.
[15:08] Saffia Widdershins: And I must run too ...
[15:08] Ceejay Writer: I am suddenly anxious to rush home and strew all my music boxes on the floor.
[15:08] Victor1st Mornington watches thumper nibble on stargirls tail....
[15:08] Jedburgh30 Dagger: applauds
[15:08] Sky Netizen applauds again
[15:08] Ceejay Writer laughs at Thumper.
[15:08] PJ Trenton is Online
[15:08] Stargirl Macbain thinks Thumper should be careful comming near at cat's tail.....
[15:08] Victor1st Mornington: ceeeeeeeeeeeejay
[15:08] Stargirl Macbain: Tootles all, that was marvelous
[15:09] Ceejay Writer grins and drawls out, "Viiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiictor"
[15:09] Breezy Carver: wavesss take care all !
[15:09] Breezy Carver: and thank YOU !
[15:09] Ceejay Writer: Goodbye, all! Was WONDERFUL.
[15:09] Jasper Kiergarten: bye to all who are leaving
[15:09] Victor1st Mornington: right, off to the hotel, got a few things to fix up in the old place...
[15:09] Jasper Kiergarten: thanks for coming
[15:09] Canolli Capalini: Well, if you'll excuse me.. i'm working on a HUGELY primmy greenhouse.
[15:09] Beq Janus: thank you Olli.
[15:09] Maribelle Bronet waves and drifts off.
[15:09] Bookworm Hienrichs: Thank you, Miss Capalini!
[15:09] Canolli Capalini: Nice seeing you again Beq.
[15:10] Ceejay Writer: I'm going to sneak home and play with music boxes while doing some things. Goodnight, and thank you again, Salonistas and Canolli!
[15:10] Bookworm Hienrichs grins and waves to Ceejay.
[15:10] Canolli Capalini: Goodnight all.
[15:10] Beq Janus: points to her fave little toy :-)
[15:10] Viv Trafalgar: hah
[15:11] Beq Janus: Did you ever see this Viv? It is a wonderful bit of darkness from Olli's imagination
[15:11] Serafina Puchkina: Whew!
[15:11] Viv Trafalgar looks
[15:12] Viv Trafalgar: yes I have -
[15:12] Viv Trafalgar: in fact, that's a favorite...
[15:12] Viv Trafalgar: and Jasper sculpted the hear in there
[15:12] Viv Trafalgar: heart
[15:12] Bookworm Hienrichs chuckles.
[15:12] Viv Trafalgar: so it's a real work of babbage
[15:13] Beq Janus: nice
[15:13] Jasper Kiergarten: :)
[15:13] Viv Trafalgar: we have so many talents -
[15:13] Viv Trafalgar: I hope we can keep up with them
[15:13] Beq Janus: I have captured Jasper's heart

Furnishings! November Aether Salon - edited version

Jasper Kiergarten: most welcome
Jedburgh30 Dagger: Hello everyone! Ladies and Gentlemen, Miss Serafina and I are pleased to welcome you to the November Aether Salon - Furnishings! An exploration of Victorian furniture and what goes into the creation of furniture and other things in Second Life. I would like to thank each and every one of you for joining us today.
Miss Viv is currently travelling abroad, and is unable to attend, but is with us in spirit. Sera has asked me to fill in as her co-host today.
As many of you know, the Aether Salon meets to discuss steam and Victorian topics on the third Sunday of each month, in Palisades and Academy, New Babbage. This is our 12th salon and I hope you are all as excited about being here today as I am.
Just a few matters of housekeeping before we get started. If you are standing in the back, please move forward onto the maze so that you can be assured of hearing the speaker. Please be courteous when asking questions and we will try to make sure your questions are answered in the order in which they were posed. As a courtesy to all, please turn off everything that feeds the lag: all HUDs, scripts, AOs and so on. Please no weapons, bombs, pointed sticks, or loose bunches of fruit. Your cooperation is appreciated.
Edited and unedited transcripts will be posted this week on aethersalon.blogspot.com so you can revisit today’s event, read transcripts of past salons, and for a laugh, peruse “overheard at the salon.” Please join the Aether Salon group and receive notifications of future salon events, click the lower right hand corner of the large brown sign by the entrance. We sincerely appreciate the support we receive from everyone in the community and we humbly thank you all.
Many fine people have contributed to today’s salon: We are grateful to Clockwinder Tenk, Miss Ceejay Writer, Miss Breezy Carver, Miss Ahnyanka Delphin, PJ Trenton for photographs, and Canolli Capalini of Capalini Fine Furnishings for the chairs and the craft. Mark your calendars for upcoming salons…December salon will be ‘on the road’ with a field trip to Steelhead Shanghai, so be sure to mark your calendar for that on December 20th.
Sera?
Serafina Puchkina: Thank you, Miss Jed. I would like to officially welcome Miss Jed as part of the Aether Salon staff.
She's long been an invaluable help behind the scenes, and today marks her first official time as a member of our staff. Thank you, Jed. You are a good friend, and we appreciate your many, many talents.
I also want to acknowledge my co-host and good friend Miss Viv, whose vision created the Aether Salon and her talents made the salon what it is today. RL will always trump SL, but it was hard for Miss Viv to miss today's salon. We miss you, Miss Viv.
It is my distinct honor to introduce today’s speaker, someone who is well known in New Babbage. After losing her family to cholera, she was sent to her Uncle Chadsworth Capalini, a carpenter who lived in Lexington, Kentucky.
He took her regularly to his woodshop and as Canolli grew, her attention to detail in the woodworking was attributed to the Uncle and his business became known for high quality furniture and chests. Not wishing to lose a valuable commodity, her Uncle kept any suitors away. Uncle Chadsworth disappeared under mysterious circumstances and suspicion was cast upon the young woman. The store was closed and Miss Capalini disappeared.
Seven years later, she appeared in New Babbage. At first, Canolli constructed a chair here and there, donating them to the New Babbage Geographical Society. Seeing the excellence of her work, commissions started rolling in. She was able to open her own store in a few months.
She disapproves of excesses and generally carries a bit of food on her person in case she meets an urchin. Friendly, with a soft southern drawl, but wary of crowds, she gets along well in New Babbage. Particularly because no one asks any questions. Certainly not about her past and not about the hammer she keeps upon her person at all times.
Without further ado, please help me in welcoming Miss Canolli Capalini.
Canolli Capalini nervously stammers.. "Thank you, Miss Serafina for this honor. Undoubtedly you may have wondered why I was asked to speak." To be quite in agreement, so have I.
I was asked to give a sort of history of Victorian furnishings.. and to be honest, that encompasses such a great field, I didn't know where to begin.
My lovely friend, Miss Breezy Carver, advised me to begin *glares at Bob* with what I know best. I was trained in Kentucky in my uncle's workshop to execute a specific styling of furniture.. Namely the Biedermeier stylization.
So, I come before you today to discuss this very stylized and specific furniture era, for it is an era that affected the whole of Europe as a backlash to the more ornate stylings of the pre-French Revolution era.
It is a misconception that Biedermeier refers to a famous cabinet maker.
Canolli Capalini grins to herself at the little furniture maker joke.
But in reality, as the French Revolution wound down and the aftershocks were still reverberating through Europe, a series of political cartoons rose referring to a "aristocratic Biedermeier" family. Fictional, but wide spread and well known.
Jedburgh30 Dagger: so this was a reaction to styles like Chippendale?
Canolli Capalini: More Empiric, Miss Dagger.
Lelani Carver wonders if it was because Europe had previously been so excessively Rococco.
Saffia Widdershins: Louis Quinze ...
Canolli Capalini: German aristocrats began to fear a similar style revolution that the French had. Furniture and decor began to reflect that. From the early 1800's to the mid 1800's you see a backlash against the ornamentation that had so previously dominated interior design. Furniture became more clean. . . simply made. Heavy, with very distinct lines. Dark woods began to be favored as opposed to lighter and gilded woods. In effect, the aristocracy was trying to make themselves seem humble, to seem more, what they considered "common."
Aisling Sinclair: but that veneer work is anything but common
Canolli Capalini smiles. "Indeed."
Lelani Carver observes that the wood grain is beautifully matched in the example
Canolli Capalini: The stylizations that arose were not found in common homes, but only the rich. Carpentry was an expensive trade, particularly with the fancy veneering and rare woods that were being used.
As the years progressed, you had a new upper middle class rise.. One that was not concerned with uprising peasantry (as they had been in that class merely 40 years before) but more concerned with showing off their new-found wealth.
Ghilayne Andrew: looted, pillaged and plundered new found wealth?
Lelani Carver: Beer barons and trade, most likely
Canolli Capalini: as the gothic revival period (more ornate) began to flow across Europe, this neauvo-riche wanted to copy its older counterparts, and you begin to see the simple clean lines of the biedermeier style merge with a more art deco feel.
As the gothic revival period (more ornate) began to flow across Europe, this Nuevo-riche wanted to copy it's older counterparts.. and you begin to see the simple clean lines of the biedermeier style merge with a more art deco feel.
Ornamentation began to creep into the edges.. the woods became more expensive and rare, with inlays providing sharp contrasts.
Aisling Sinclair: this was about 1840?
Canolli Capalini: a little after.. the biedermeier period actually ends with the Napoleonic period.. so about 1848.. You see the gothic revival approach shortly after that.. which is why you see such a heavy biedermeier influence in the early 1900's. Indeed, the style even lends itself to Art Deco and the more Shaker stylizations that came with Frank Lloyd Wright. Craftsman has a lot to thank "Biedermeier" for.
I brought with me some pictures of prime examples of this unique and very adaptable style. This first example is a very simple cabinet, but as you can start to look closely at the veneer work, it is anything but simple.
Cross grains of veneer to provide lines on flat surfaces was one of the earmarks. It was all about the wood. Again, an example of using woodgrains to provide the ornamentation. I do believe.
vida Serrao: they spent as much time on the backs of things as the fronts, didn't they Miss?
Canolli Capalini: and yes, they did.. The piece over all was meant to be a work of art as a stand alone.
Canolli Capalini: This set of chairs actually dates to 1837 and has been reupholstered in a vintage cloth. Sadly, I do not have these in my shop, but I am looking to making some similar. Note the curvation on the back with the slight ornamentation at the top. It curves outward even as it curves upward, providing that very clean line. AND! it should be noted.. the original upholstery would have been more of a solid tapestry.. less ornate than flowery stripes.
Fono Heninga: Is that a shell motif, or a fan?
Canolli Capalini: This is a fan motif. Note again, on the legs, the very marked difference in wood grains and colors.
Canolli Capalini clears her throat. "This stylization may seem familiar to you, if you have been through my shop."
This was a set more towards the gothic revival.. note the extra spirals on the underarm. But the lines are still very simple and very functional. Ah, but fashion goes hand in hand with decor..
Serafina Puchkina: It's interesting how art, music, fashion, literature, and now I find out, furniture echo each other through the years
Canolli Capalini: With the advent of the Biedermeier period, you started seeing a lessing of some skirts.. again, to show more of a connection to the peasantry.
Ghilayne Andrew: and architecture
Canolli Capalini: err.. skirt widths.. not the skirts themselves. This little hall table is a prime example of still biedermeier, but not part of the straight or curved legature you see normally. More toward the gothic revival, classical influences began to show up in columnesque ornamentation.
Fono Heninga: lovely character!
Canolli Capalini: All speaking of the marvelous adaptability of this wonderful style. Here we have a simple round table.. but check out the top.. and the bottom.. ! Note how the light to dark woodgrain is used effectively to create a pattern more aesthetically pleasing. This is an example of a mirror from the period. Ornate, but not flowery
And on to my personal favorite part of the stylization, the very divine Divan, which has an interesting sidenote to it, all on its own.
Canolli Capalini leans up excitedly...
With the push of the British empire into the middle east, you start seeing an arabesque influence into the same Biedermeier stylization. Indeed, it suited the romantic repression that crept through the Edwardian and Victorian age perfectly.
Elegia Underwood: And introduced the romance of the harem... the odalisque... neh?
Canolli Capalini: It should be noted at this time that Sir Richard Burton was scandalizing the Victorian literary world with his translation of 1001 Arabian Nights.
Ivniciix Wemyss: ...and yet...the Turkish influence of Cpntinental syle happened a full 199 years earlier yes? 199 years that is...on the Continent...
Canolli Capalini: Yes! Absolutely..
Ivniciix Wemyss: ...Mozart’s Abduction form the Seraglio being only one example....
Aisling Sinclair: has this been reupholstered as well?
Canolli Capalini: Here you see a very different stylization of sofa that is still encompassed in the biedermeier styling.
Yes.. This is a much blockier and heavier style, without the curving lines, but still has the clean functionality. Actually, I think this one is the original upholstery.
Ceejay Writer: Doesn't look comfy, but very attractive.
Canolli Capalini: It wasn't meant to be "comfortable".. it was meant to look austere.. plain.
Ivniciix Wemyss: it does presage Craftsman style a bit doesn't it?
Canolli Capalini: Exactly, my point. Wright and the Stickley Brothers owe a LOT to Mr. "Biedermeier".
Elegia Underwood: It presages Shaker style, too. *chuckles*
Aisling Sinclair: except for the neoclassical fabric
Canolli Capalini: Here we have a hall table.. You have the generous curves and highly ornate veneer woodgrain. This piece is actually much smaller than a dining room sideboard. A small writing desk. Here is my own version of that very desk. I actually became a bit more ornate.. *chuckles softly* got carried away.
Elegia Underwood: Are the legs on each side from a single piece, Miss Capalini?
Canolli Capalini: On the picture it is.. on mine, I .. uhm.. well, I had an accident with the mahogany piece I'd obtained for it, but you still have the distinct contrast in wood grains. Now this is a very simple piece.. but I included it for the very reason of how well you can see the contrasting woodgrains.
Ivniciix Wemyss: looks similar to a fold out card table also
Canolli Capalini: Last but not least, I've included a larger desk.. so you can see the brass work that started appearing in the late 1800's.
Fono Heninga: Secession, here we come! Nice.
Canolli Capalini: Which brings us to the last portion of my presentation.. a very short blurb on construction in SL.. Many times I've had people tell me that "Oh, look.. your woods don't repeat", things of that nature. I construct furniture in this world to be as close to keeping with the pieces I love so much.. so therefore, no.. on many pieces, you can tell it's different woods, different grains, it looks like wood put together. That is deliberate.. a furniture maker doesn't make a cabinet out of a single piece of wood.. and neither do I. :)
Are there . well, any questions?
Aisling Sinclair: how does Biedermeier relate to the American Empire style?
Darlingmonster Ember hand up
Canolli Capalini: American empire was basically the American take on the beidermeier. You had an immigration that came into the states that had viewed the more rich interiors of beidermeier and brought that ideal with them.
Aisling Sinclair: *nods*...so many similarities
Canolli Capalini: Very many similiarities.. however, you had a larger abundance of hard common woods. So, you don't see quite so much veneer with the American Empire, and it tends to be heavier.
Dreddpiratebob Streeter: briefly, i would like you to tell me why on gods green earth anyone cares a damn fig for bloody furnitures?! Also, Where’s the elephant you promised?
Canolli Capalini: Because Master Streeter, Furniture symbolizes power..
Dreddpiratebob Streeter: it does?
Canolli Capalini: Why do you think the heads of organizations are called "Chairs"
Jedburgh30 Dagger: Did the continental furniture makers use tropical woods like mahogany?
Canolli Capalini: Yes Miss Dagger, they did; however, it was VERY expensive.
Darlingmonster Ember: Puts hand higher
Jedburgh30 Dagger: Miss Ember has a question
Canolli Capalini: You see a LOT of the veneers are made of rare woods, hence why you see the aristocracy with the stylization in their homes and not the butchers, bakers and candlestick makers.
Darlingmonster Ember: you mentioned beidermeier as antecedent to the Craftsman and Deco styles... since Steampunk styles recombine these things... are you aware of any trend to have furniture recombine in this fashion...besides your own work in SL?
Canolli Capalini: Excellent question! Are you speaking just in SL or furniture on a whole?
Darlingmonster Ember: both please
Canolli Capalini: Bidermeier attracts me specifically because of its versatility. In RL, there isn't .. that I can think of.. a furniture stylization/era that encompasses SO many different earmarks of what makes it.
Ivniciix Wemyss: Might I add that it also depends on how one defines Steampunk...as materials or as motifs, such as the "gear" bottom to the round table that was shown
Canolli Capalini: You can have something be art deco, or gothic, or more craftsman.. and still be considered within the stylization.
Canolli Capalini: nods.. exactly Mr. Wemyss. In SL, well, everyone is recombining ideas and snatches of everything they see. As far as I know, I'm one of the few people that's trying to provide furniture that looks more historically accurate, whether or not it actually is. There are so many wonderful furniture makers.. it's hard to pinpoint different styles.
Fono Heninga: Ah! This is related to my question, if I may? I was wondering - you mentioned earlier that you strayed out of style - is staying true to a style important for you as a maker?
Canolli Capalini laughs.. "Yes, actually it is. I take a great deal of pride in how detailed and true to a stylization I try to be, so yes.. it is actually very important."
And I'd like to add.. it's the very versatility of this style that *I* think makes it work perfectly in a steampunk setting.. even though I don't have gears in it.. or metallic pipes or such.. I think it's an elegant footnote to our "might have been" period.
Fono Heninga: *nods* a range of style makes things more ...real
Jasper Kiergarten: well dark woods look so wonderful beside brass
Jedburgh30 Dagger: If you look to my right, you will see a bookcase over in the corner. Miss Capalini has again very graciously given us another superb craft
Canolli Capalini smiles.. Please.. the bookcase is my gift to you, for being such a wonderful and forgiving audience.
Jedburgh30 Dagger: If there are no more questions for our speaker... Thank you all again for your support, and your attendance!
Serafina Puchkina: As always, the tip jar proceeds go directly to the speaker. Thank you all for your generosity
Canolli Capalini whispers loudly, "Can I get down now?"
Ceejay Writer: CAnolli Capalini.... come on down!
Jedburgh30 Dagger: You're done darlin'
Serafina Puchkina: Thank you all for coming today
Ivniciix Wemyss: isn't this one on the aethrtrop maple inside?
Canolli Capalini: It is maple..
Beq Janus: Alll do not forget that there is another sign on the way out that will allow you to donate to the Salon itself and recognise the efforts of those beyond the speakers who run this show [
Serafina Puchkina: Thanks, Beq. I forgot. Yes, that goes to tier for this place
Darlingmonster Ember: ciao for now gentles

Furnishings! November Aether Salon

[13:36] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: :p
[13:36] Serafina Puchkina: Hello Bob
[13:36] Canolli Capalini: sighs.. Hello Master Streeter
[13:36] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: AHOY!
[13:36] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: YAY ME!
[13:36] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: so. anything good happening then?
[13:36] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: no. no there isnt is there. just chairs
[13:36] Jasper Kiergarten: I hear you like Martha Stewart
[13:37] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: thats lies!
[13:37] Jedburgh30 Dagger: He's a Rachel Ray guy
[13:37] Serafina Puchkina: Olli, your dress is beautiful
[13:37] Jasper Kiergarten: lol
[13:37] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: do tell, for i am terrible excited, will there be lamps?
[13:37] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: what about dressing tables?
[13:37] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: Ah HA!
**Off topic conversation here for a few lines**
13:40] Jasper Kiergarten: hello Vida
[13:40] vida Serrao: hi!
[13:40] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: ahoy
[13:41] vida Serrao: hello funny green haired person
[13:41] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: whew are we in for some fun with the lag today
[13:41] Serafina Puchkina: Hello there little vida
[13:41] vida Serrao: Hi!
[13:41] Canolli Capalini: Gah.. does everyone come early to these things?
[13:42] Jasper Kiergarten: greetings Elf, Count
[13:42] Serafina Puchkina: Welcome Mr Nemeth
[13:42] Serafina Puchkina: Hello Baron and Miss Lowey
[13:42] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Welocme to the Aether Salon
[13:42] Arconus Arkright: Sorry, I just dropped in. Not on the guest list for whatever this is
[13:42] Serafina Puchkina: Hello Mr Arkright. You are welcome
[13:42] Jasper Kiergarten: there's no guest list
[13:42] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: hahah everyone is chasing the green dots. irts like a blackhole, it gets bigger and denser and then it starts to drag all other bodies towards it
[13:42] Jedburgh30 Dagger: No guest list, all are welcome
[13:42] Arconus Arkright: Fab
[13:43] Jasper Kiergarten: not starting for another 15 minutes, but you're welcome to stay
[13:43] Jasper Kiergarten: more than welcome
[13:43] Arconus Arkright: Another Fleet Week fandango?
[13:43] Annechen Lowey: Are there any spaces that need to be kept clear other than the usual areas?
[13:43] Elfod Nemeth: hi Jasper, sorry, was draggaed away
[13:43] Jasper Kiergarten: np :)
[13:43] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: i know must be thrilled! i am! can you imagine! Furniture! how daring!
[13:43] Elfod Nemeth: and Sera :)
[13:43] Dreddpiratebob Streeter sighs
[13:44] vida Serrao: Mister you sure do talk a lot for such a slight thing
[13:44] KlausWulfenbach Outlander: Herr Streeter, I don't see any shackles keeping you here.
[13:44] vida Serrao: is there a big brain under that stinky hat?
[13:44] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: what jasper? yeah he does bang on
[13:44] Arconus Arkright: Thank you, Mr. Kiergarten
[13:44] Jasper Kiergarten: certainly
[13:44] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: AHOY!
[13:44] Jasper Kiergarten: I have chairs, if you should decide to stay, and wish to sit down
[13:44] Jasper Kiergarten: just let me know
[13:44] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: i am here under the usual pain of death thing
[13:44] KlausWulfenbach Outlander: This looks like a good spot.
[13:45] Annechen Lowey: Yes, sir.
[13:45] Arconus Arkright: Thanks, but I think I'll be heading off to the docks
[13:45] Serafina Puchkina: There are refreshments at the back, if you wish
[13:45] Jasper Kiergarten: very good then
[13:45] KlausWulfenbach Outlander: If the damen will pardon my rudeness, I'll attend to some paperwork while waiting for the start.
[13:45] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: keep it for the talking, that'll give you something to do
[13:46] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: i brought pins. i'm sticking them in my legs to stay awake
[13:46] vida Serrao: aw
[13:46] vida Serrao: so you're a voodoo doll?
[13:46] KlausWulfenbach Outlander slides his chair around excessively
[13:47] Canolli Capalini: I still have like 10 minutes, yes?
[13:47] Serafina Puchkina: yes
[13:50] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: so anyway i was talking to some people and they said anything you sit on is a furniture and that means cats and the earth is so what will you be covering? cats or the earth or anything ese? you can sit on an elephant you know
[13:50] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: and elephant is like a big horse
[13:50] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: if you dint know
[13:51] Canolli Capalini looks over at Master Streeter and raises her eyebrow.. "I'm very familiar with elephants, young man. and we will be covering NONE of those things."
[13:51] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: did you bring your own elephant?
[13:51] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: oh why not?
[13:51] Jasper Kiergarten: one could sit on your head too Bob
[13:51] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: they could! would that make me a furniture?
[13:51] Jasper Kiergarten: so I guess I could sell you in my shop for $L35
[13:51] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: theres only one of me! i'm rare!
[13:52] Jasper Kiergarten: ok, $L40
[13:52] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: thats better
[13:52] Annechen Lowey mutters, "Rare form indeed."
[13:52] vida Serrao: Did you want to sit here mister? it's better than an elephent
[13:52] Serafina Puchkina: Hello Breezy! Hello Ceejay! Welcome
[13:52] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: no! thats not mine! mine sitty thing is over there but i dunt want to
[13:53] Breezy Carver: greetings :)
[13:53] Serafina Puchkina: Hello Beq
[13:53] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: i am concrened if i sit on somehting it becomes a furniture and thus could be anything
[13:53] KlausWulfenbach Outlander: Hallo, damen. Pardon me not standing, bitte.
[13:53] Ceejay Writer: Hello!
[13:53] Jasper Kiergarten: Hi Breezy, Beq
[13:53] Serafina Puchkina: Hello Miss Spiritweaver
[13:53] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: an elephant for isntance
[13:53] Beq Janus: hello invisible people
[13:53] Jasper Kiergarten: hey Ceejay
[13:53] vida Serrao: What's your name mister?
[13:53] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Hi folks! Come on in
[13:54] Breezy Carver: Hello Jasper hey Beq hun :) wavess to ceejay and all :)
[13:54] Beq Janus: by the lag I preusme ther are more than the 2 people I can see here
[13:54] Kit SpiritWeaver: Hello...excuse me as I lurch in.
[13:54] Serafina Puchkina: Welcome Miss Aeon
[13:54] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: welcome to the 9th level of hell. furnishings and household items
[13:54] KlausWulfenbach Outlander is holding very still
[13:54] Ceejay Writer: Oh yes. Everyone is still rezzing in. Hopefully I'm not on someones head.
[13:54] Alaex Aeon: Hi Sera
[13:54] Annechen Lowey: erf
[13:54] Serafina Puchkina: If you need a chair, please see Jasper.
[13:54] vida Serrao: there's only seven levels. everyone knows that mister
[13:54] Kit SpiritWeaver: May I have a chair please?
[13:54] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: dont sit on folk ceejay! they become a furniture!
[13:54] Serafina Puchkina: We have refreshments at the back
[13:55] Annechen Lowey: One bad thing about these chairs, they are not immobile.
[13:55] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: elephants are mobile!
[13:55] Beq Janus: Elf, I thought for a minute your tag said you were a crap creator
[13:55] Jasper Kiergarten: there you are miss
[13:55] Kit SpiritWeaver: Thank you
[13:55] Jasper Kiergarten: uh oh
[13:56] Alaex Aeon: Hi Jed
[13:56] Beq Janus: That's Bob's job
[13:56] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: :p
[13:56] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Hiya!
[13:56] Ceejay Writer: Well, time to see if my salon chair fights with my sling!
[13:56] Beq Janus: damn thee only people I could see have just vanished
[13:57] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: you got yer glasses on?
[13:57] Jasper Kiergarten: anyone requiring a chair, please let me know
[13:57] Jasper Kiergarten: if I don't respond, drop me an IM
[13:57] Beq Janus: no they don't fit cos of the peg on my nose to keep the stench out
[13:57] Ceejay Writer: Am I on anyone? I was hoping to land on Bob's foot
[13:57] Kathy Jameson: Mr. Kiergarten, may have a chair?
[13:57] Matthew Masingh: I am not on Beq, am I?
[13:58] Kathy Jameson: Thank you, sir!
[13:58] Serafina Puchkina: Welcome everyone, welcome!
[13:58] Beq Janus: don't think so
[13:59] Jedburgh30 Dagger: If you need a chair, please ask Jasper for one
[13:59] Serafina Puchkina: Welcome Miss Ember
[13:59] Darlingmonster Ember: hullo all
[13:59] Darlingmonster Ember: nods
[13:59] Darlingmonster Ember: a chair please
[14:00] Serafina Puchkina: Welcome welcome
[14:00] Ernst Osterham: May I have a chair as well, please?
[14:00] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Hello new arrivals!
[14:00] Saffia Widdershins: Hello!
[14:00] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: aww look everyones stunned to silence by the prospect of foot stools
[14:00] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: or they were
[14:00] Serafina Puchkina: Still time to partake of refreshments
[14:00] Serafina Puchkina: Welcome Saffia
[14:01] Ceejay Writer: Hi Ash!
[14:01] Aisling Sinclair: hi Ceejay!
[14:01] Aisling Sinclair: hello everyone :)
[14:01] Beq Janus appears to have found quicksand
[14:02] Serafina Puchkina: Hello Miss Sinclair
[14:02] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Welcome to the Aether Salon everyone
[14:02] Saffia Widdershins: Hi Ash!
[14:02] Lelani Carver: Oh! Pardon me for my precipitous entrance...
[14:02] Jedburgh30 Dagger: if you haven't gotten a chair, please see Jasper, the chair master
[14:02] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: shouldnt he be talking?
[14:02] Ghilayne Andrew: oops... sorry, Mr. Tenk.
[14:02] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Beq, you may be on the sim line
[14:03] Bela Lubezki: hello all
[14:03] Matthew Masingh: Hello Bela
[14:03] Ceejay Writer: Jed, you all right?
[14:03] Fono Heninga: good afternoon
[14:03] Jedburgh30 Dagger: You may need to step up onto the maze in order to hear the speaker
[14:03] Serafina Puchkina: Hello everyone. Welcome
[14:04] Beq Janus: better thanks Jed
[14:05] Bela Lubezki: what are these chairs called? they pile in my inventory but i dont find them again
[14:05] Breezy Carver: laughs @ Bela
[14:05] Breezy Carver: soooo true :)
[14:05] Ghilayne Andrew smiles at Breezy and Riel.
[14:05] Serafina Puchkina: Hello Laynie
[14:05] Beq Janus: Bela search for salon
[14:05] Breezy Carver: waves to Laynie and Gabi :)
[14:05] Bela Lubezki: ah, thx
[14:05] Serafina Puchkina: Hello Gabi
[14:06] Ceejay Writer: It's called Ather Salon (wear me)
[14:06] Matthew Masingh: Gabi!!!!!
[14:06] Gabrielle Riel stumbles around blindly - sorry!
[14:06] Ghilayne Andrew smiles. "Hello, Jed!"
[14:06] Aisling Sinclair: are there more chairs available?
[14:06] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Hiya!
[14:06] Jasper Kiergarten: yes
[14:06] Lelani Carver: Very useful, if a bit odd at first, wearing one's chair.
[14:07] Ceejay Writer: Just don't walk with them on, *grin*
[14:07] Gabrielle Riel: Good day Miss Andrew, Miss Carver, Miss Puchkina and Mr. Masingh...and one and all!
[14:07] Lelani Carver chuckles and makes a note: "Do not walk around."
[14:07] Jasper Kiergarten: please bare with me if I don't get you a chair right away, those who've asked
[14:07] Jasper Kiergarten: its starting to lag noticeably
[14:07] Jasper Kiergarten: :)
[14:07] Aisling Sinclair: oh, thank you, Mr Kiergarten :)
[14:08] Jasper Kiergarten: most welcome
[14:08] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Hello everyone! Ladies and Gentlemen, Miss Serafina and I are pleased to welcome you to the November Aether Salon - Furnishings! An exploration of Victorian furniture and what goes into the creation of furniture and other things in Second Life. I would like to thank each and every one of you for joining us today.
[14:08] Elegia Underwood plops herself down on the floor as wearing trousers makes this quite simple.
[14:08] Aisling Sinclair: a wearable chair, what a wonderful thing to have
[14:08] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Miss Viv is currently travelling abroad, and is unable to attend, but is with us in spirit. Sera has asked me to fill in as her co-host today.
[14:08] Beq Janus applauds
[14:08] Darlingmonster Ember applauds
[14:08] Alaex Aeon applauds
[14:08] Ceejay Writer: Shoes well filled! *applauds*
[14:08] Jedburgh30 Dagger: As many of you know, the Aether Salon meets to discuss steam and Victorian topics on the third Sunday of each month, in Palisades and Academy, New Babbage. This is our 12th salon and I hope you are all as excited about being here today as I am.
[14:09] Matthew Masingh claps
[14:09] Breezy Carver clapss
[14:09] Kit SpiritWeaver claps
[14:09] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: hells bells they are already banging on about chaits]]rs
[14:09] KlausWulfenbach Outlander applauds
[14:09] Bela Lubezki: its a bit uncomfortible in a packed steam tram, but else
[14:09] Ceejay Writer thwaps Bob.
[14:09] Aisling Sinclair: yay Jed!
[14:09] Saffia Widdershins applauds
[14:09] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Just a few matters of housekeeping before we get started. If you are standing in the back, please move forward onto the maze so that you can be assured of hearing the speaker. Please be courteous when asking questions and we will try to make sure your questions are answered in the order in which they were posed. As a courtesy to all, please turn off everything that feeds the lag: all HUDs, scripts, AOs and so on. Please no weapons, bombs, pointed sticks, or loose bunches of fruit. Your cooperation is appreciated.
[14:09] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Edited and unedited transcripts will be posted this week on aethersalon.blogspot.com so you can revisit today’s event, read transcripts of past salons, and for a laugh, peruse “overheard at the salon.” Please join the Aether Salon group and receive notifications of future salon events, click the lower right hand corner of the large brown sign by the entrance. We sincerely appreciate the support we receive from everyone in the community and we humbly thank you all.
[14:10] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Many fine people have contributed to today’s salon: We are grateful to Clockwinder Tenk, Miss Ceejay Writer, Miss Breezy Carver, Miss Ahnyanka Delphin, PJ Trenton for photographs, and Canolli Capalini of Capalini Fine Furnishings for the chairs and the craft. Mark your calendars for upcoming salons…December salon will be ‘on the road’ with a field trip to Steelhead Shanghai, so be sure to mark your calendar for that on December 20th.
[14:10] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Sera?
[14:10] Serafina Puchkina: Thank you, Miss Jed. I would like to officially welcome Miss Jed as part of the Aether Salon staff.
[14:11] Aisling Sinclair: .-'`'-. APPLAUSE APPLAUSE .-'`'-.
[14:11] Alaex Aeon applauds
[14:11] Beq Janus applauds
[14:11] Matthew Masingh claps
[14:11] KlausWulfenbach Outlander applauds
[14:11] Serafina Puchkina: She's long been an invaluable help behind the scenes, and today marks her first official time as a member of our staff. Thank you, Jed. You are a good friend, and we appreciate your many, many talents.
[14:11] Darlingmonster Ember applauds
[14:11] Kit SpiritWeaver applauds
[14:11] Serafina Puchkina: I also want to acknowledge my co-host and good friend Miss Viv, whose vision created the Aether Salon and her talents made the salon what it is today. RL will always trump SL, but it was hard for Miss Viv to miss today's salon. We miss you, Miss Viv.
[14:11] Serafina Puchkina: It is my distinct honor to introduce today’s speaker, someone who is well known in New Babbage. After losing her family to cholera, she was sent to her Uncle Chadsworth Capalini, a carpenter who lived in Lexington, Kentucky.
[14:12] Beq Janus seconds that
[14:12] Jasper Kiergarten: yay viv
[14:12] Ceejay Writer sends special applause out to RL
[14:12] Serafina Puchkina: He took her regularly to his woodshop and as Canolli grew, her attention to detail in the woodworking was attributed to the Uncle and his business became known for high quality furniture and chests. Not wishing to lose a valuable commodity, her Uncle kept any suitors away.
[14:12] Serafina Puchkina: Uncle Chadsworth disappeared under mysterious circumstances and suspicion was cast upon the young woman. The store was closed and Miss Capalini disappeared.
[14:12] Elegia Underwood: Tsk tsk.
[14:13] Elegia Underwood gasps.
[14:13] Ceejay Writer frowns.
[14:13] Serafina Puchkina: Seven years later, she appeared in New Babbage. At first, Canolli constructed a chair here and there, donating them to the New Babbage Geographical Society. Seeing the excellence of her work, commissions started rolling in. She was able to open her own store in a few months.
[14:13] Elegia Underwood: Brava!
[14:13] Serafina Puchkina: She disapproves of excesses and generally carries a bit of food on her person in case she meets an urchin. Friendly, with a soft southern drawl, but wary of crowds, she gets along well in New Babbage. Particularly because no one asks any questions.
[14:13] Serafina Puchkina: Certainly not about her past and not about the hammer she keeps upon her person at all times.
[14:14] Aisling Sinclair nods approvingly at New Babbage's discretion
[14:14] Serafina Puchkina: Without further ado, please help me in welcoming Miss Canolli Capalini.
[14:14] Elegia Underwood: ***** APPPPPPPLLLLAAAUUUSSSSEEEEEEE***********
[14:14] Darlingmonster Ember applauds
[14:14] Jedburgh30 Dagger: applauds
[14:14] Matthew Masingh hoots and hollars
[14:14] Serafina Puchkina applauds
[14:14] Elegia Underwood: `*.¸.*´ APPLAUSE `*.¸.*´APPLAUSE `*.¸.*´
[14:14] Alaex Aeon applauds
[14:14] Annechen Lowey: `*.¸.*´ APPLAUSE `*.¸.*´APPLAUSE `*.¸.*´
[14:14] Elegia Underwood: *:-.,_,.-:*'´ `*. HoOoOoO!¸.*´`'*:-.,_,.-:*
[14:14] Beq Janus applauds
[14:14] Breezy Carver: YAY!
[14:14] Ceejay Writer whistles loudly.
[14:14] Lelani Carver applauds
[14:14] Fono Heninga: *applauds*
[14:14] Kathy Jameson applauds
[14:14] Aisling Sinclair: .-'`'-. APPLAUSE APPLAUSE .-'`'-.
[14:14] Kit SpiritWeaver applauds
[14:14] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: yaayy!
[14:14] Ghilayne Andrew applauds!
[14:14] KlausWulfenbach Outlander applauds
[14:14] Saffia Widdershins applauds
[14:15] Canolli Capalini nervously stammers.. "Thank you, Miss Serafina for this honor. Undoubtedly you may have wondered why I was asked to speak."
[14:15] LillieJay Mills applauds
[14:15] Canolli Capalini: To be quite in agreement, so have I.
[14:15] Ceejay Writer smiles encouragingly at her talented friend.
[14:15] Elegia Underwood: Not a bit of it!
[14:15] Elegia Underwood smiles.
[14:16] Canolli Capalini: I was asked to give a sort of history of Victorian furnishings.. and to be hnest.. that encompasses such a great field, I didn't know where to begin.
[14:16] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: start with elephants
[14:16] Canolli Capalini: My lovely friend, Miss Breezy Carver, advised me to begin *glares at Bob* with what I know best.
[14:16] Ceejay Writer executes a sidekick.
[14:17] Breezy Carver smiles
[14:17] Canolli Capalini: I was trained in Kentucky in my uncle's workshop to execute a specific styling of furniture.. Namely the Biedermeier stylization.
.[14:18] Canolli Capalini: So, I come before you today to discuss this very stylized and specific furniture era, for it is an era that affected the whole of Europe as a backlash to the more ornate stylings of the pre-French Revolution era.
[14:19] Canolli Capalini chuckles.. "It is a misconception that Biedermeier refers to a famous cabinet maker."
[14:19] Canolli Capalini grins to herself at the little furniture maker joke.
[14:19] Darlingmonster Ember smiles
[14:19] Ceejay Writer thought it sounded like a lager but says nothing.
[14:20] Canolli Capalini: But in reality, as the French Revolution wound down and the aftershocks were still reverberating through Europe, a series of political cartoons rose refering to a "aristocratic Biedermeier" family.
[14:20] Canolli Capalini: Fictional.. but wide spread and well known.
[14:20] Jedburgh30 Dagger: so this was a reaction to styles like Chippendale?
[14:20] Breezy Carver: interesting ..
[14:20] Canolli Capalini: More Empiric, Miss Dagger.
[14:21] Lelani Carver wonders if it was because Europe had previously been so excessively Rococco.
[14:21] Saffia Widdershins: Louis Quinze ...
[14:21] Canolli Capalini: German aristocrats began to fear a similiar style revolution that the french had.
[14:21] Breezy Carver smiless
[14:21] Canolli Capalini: Furniture and decor began to reflect that.
[14:22] Breezy Carver jealosy.. *grins*
[14:22] Canolli Capalini: from the early 1800's to the mid 1800's you see a backlash against the ornamentation that had so previously dominated interior design
[14:22] Canolli Capalini: Furniture became more clean.. simply made. Heavy, with very distinct lines.
[14:23] Canolli Capalini: Dark woods began to be favored as opposed to lighter and gilded woods.
[14:23] Canolli Capalini: In effect, the aristocracy was trying to make themselves seem humble.
[14:23] Canolli Capalini: to seem more, what they considered "common."
[14:23] Aisling Sinclair: but that veneer work is anything but common
[14:24] Canolli Capalini smiles. "Indeed."
[14:24] Fono Heninga: "nothing to see here" - I see
[14:24] Lelani Carver observes that the wood grain is beautifully matched in the example
[14:24] Canolli Capalini: The stylizations that arose were not found in common homes, but only the rich. Carpentry was an expensive trade.. particularly with the fancy veneering and rare woods that were being used.
[14:25] Canolli Capalini: As the years progressed, you had a new upper middle class rise.. One that was not concerned with uprising peasantry (as they had been in that class merely 40 years before) but more concerned with showing off their new found wealth.
[14:26] Ghilayne Andrew: looted, pillaged and plundered new found wealth?
[14:26] Lelani Carver: Beer barons and trade, most likely
[14:27] Canolli Capalini: as the gothic revival period (more ornate) began to flow across Europe, this neauvo-riche wanted to copy it's older counterparts.. and you begin to see the simple clean lines of the biedermeier style merge with a more art deco feel.
[14:27] Canolli Capalini: as the gothic revival period (more ornate) began to flow across Europe, this neauvo-riche wanted to copy it's older counterparts.. and you begin to see the simple clean lines of the biedermeier style merge with a more art deco feel.
[14:27] Canolli Capalini: Ornamentation began to creep into the edges.. the woods became more expensive and rare, with inlays providing sharp contrasts.
[14:27] Aisling Sinclair: this was about 1840?
[14:28] Canolli Capalini: a little after.. the bidermeier period actually ends with the napoelionic period.. so about 1848..
[14:28] Aisling Sinclair: ah, thank you
[14:28] Canolli Capalini: you see the gothic revival approach shortly after that.. which is why you see such a heavy biedermeier influence in the early 1900's.
[14:29] Canolli Capalini: Indeed, the style even lends itself to Art Deco and the more Shaker stylizations that came with Frank Lloyd Wright.
[14:29] Canolli Capalini: Craftsman has a lot to thank "Biedermeier" for.
[14:30] Canolli Capalini: I brought with me some pictures of prime examples of this unique and very adaptable style.
[14:30] vida Serrao: It sure is nice. Better than an elephant
[14:30] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: nothing is better than elephants!
[14:30] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: i notice a distinct lack of elephants so far by the way
[14:30] vida Serrao: shshs mister, I'm listening to the Lady. she's smart.
[14:30] Breezy Carver: Indeed !!
[14:30] Canolli Capalini wonders if she threw her shoe, would it do any damage to Bob.
[14:31] Ghilayne Andrew's great grandmother had a settee with crocodile feet.
[14:31] Jasper Kiergarten: that could be arranged
[14:31] Canolli Capalini: This first example is a very simple cabinet.. but as you can start to look closely at the veneer work, it is anything but simple.
[14:31] Ghilayne Andrew: Crocodile feet beat elephants, Bob.
[14:31] Lelani Carver recalls hours polishing an old dining table with lion's paws. Sadly, no elephant brolly stands.
[14:32] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: as snakcs or as furnitures
[14:32] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: *snacks
[14:32] Canolli Capalini: Cross grains of veneer to provide lines on flat surfaces was one of the earmarks. It was all about the wood.
[14:32] Ceejay Writer grins and ponders zoolike furniture.
[14:32] Lelani Carver recalls that she used rags, not the paws of actual lions.
[14:32] Aisling Sinclair's dining table has lion's paws...wood ones, fortunately.
[14:32] Canolli Capalini: Again, an example of using woodgrains to provide the ornamentation. I do believe..
[14:33] vida Serrao: they spent as much time on the backs of things as the fronts, didn't they Miss?
[14:33] Canolli Capalini wrestles with the contraptions controls...
[14:33] Kit SpiritWeaver: That's lovely
[14:33] Jedburgh30 Dagger: wow
[14:33] Alaex Aeon: beautiful
[14:33] Canolli Capalini: My apologies, I believe the contraption is squishing my pictures.. that's actually an armoire.
[14:33] Elegia Underwood: For urchins *mutters*
[14:33] Canolli Capalini: and yes, they did.. The piece over all was meant to be a work of art as a stand alone.
[14:34] Kathy Jameson: Modern technology.... *shakes her head*
[14:34] Canolli Capalini: This set of chairs actually dates to 1837 and has been reupholstered in a vintage cloth. Sadly, I do not ahve these in my shop, but I am looking to making some similiar.
[14:35] Canolli Capalini: Note the curvation on the back.. with the slight ornamentation at the top.
[14:35] Canolli Capalini: It curves outward even as it curves upward, providing that very clean line..
[14:35] Serafina Puchkina whispers: how beautiful
[14:35] Tinus Koskinen: makes a note for his apartment.
[14:36] Canolli Capalini grins broadly.. "AND! it should be noted.. the original upholstery would have been more of a solid tapestry.. less ornate than flowery stripes."
[14:36] Fono Heninga: Is that a shell motif, or a fan?
[14:36] Canolli Capalini: This is a fan motif.
[14:36] Fono Heninga: thank you. :)
[14:36] Ceejay Writer: It's charming.
[14:36] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: OOh are they for foppish fops or for boring girls who can't think about anything but chairs?
[14:36] Dreddpiratebob Streeter dispairs
[14:37] Canolli Capalini: Note again, on the legs.. the very marked difference in wood grains and colors.
[14:37] Kathy Jameson must be a boring girl. :)
[14:37] Canolli Capalini clears her throat.. "This stylization may seem familiar to you, if you have been through my shop."
[14:38] vida Serrao: I like the curves
[14:38] Canolli Capalini: This was a set more towards the gothic revival.. note the extra spirals on the underarm.
[14:39] Canolli Capalini: But the lines are still very simple and very functional.
[14:39] Canolli Capalini bangs on the side of the contraption.
[14:39] Canolli Capalini: piffle.. squashed.
[14:40] Canolli Capalini: Ah, but fashion goes hand in hand with decor..
[14:40] Breezy Carver: Oh Yes always !!
[14:40] Aisling Sinclair: now THAT is gorgeous
[14:40] Aisling Sinclair: squashed or not
[14:40] Breezy Carver WOW !
[14:40] Serafina Puchkina: It's interesting how art, music, fashion, literature, and now I find out, furniture echo each other through the years
[14:40] Canolli Capalini: With the advent of the Biedermeier period, you started seeing a lessing of some skirts.. again, to show more of a connection to the peasantry.
[14:40] Ghilayne Andrew: and architecture
[14:41] Canolli Capalini: err.. skirt widths.. not the skirts themselves.
.[14:42] Canolli Capalini: This little hall table is a prime example of still biedermeier.. but not part of the straight or curved legature you see normally.
[14:42] Canolli Capalini: More toward the gothic revival, classical influences began to show up in columnesque ornamentation.
[14:42] Fono Heninga: lovely character!
[14:42] Canolli Capalini: All speaking of the marvelous adaptability of this wonderful style.
[14:43] Tinus Koskinen: that is a little steamy (smiles)
[14:43] Canolli Capalini: Here we have a simple round table.. but check out the top.. and the bottom.. !
[14:43] Breezy Carver giggless
[14:44] Canolli Capalini: note how the light to dark woodgrain is used effectively to create a pattern more aesthetically pleasing
.[14:44] Bela Lubezki: great sculpties involved
[14:44] Canolli Capalini: This is an example of a mirror from the period. Ornate, but not flowery
[14:45] Canolli Capalini: and on to my personal favrotie part of the stylization..
[14:45] Canolli Capalini: The very divine Divan..
[14:45] Serafina Puchkina: ooooo
[14:45] Breezy Carver smiles
[14:45] Canolli Capalini: Which has an interesting sidenote to it, all on it's own.
[14:45] Canolli Capalini leans up excitedly...
[14:45] Kit SpiritWeaver: Nice!
[14:45] Ceejay Writer: Nice!
[14:46] Alaex Aeon: very
[14:46] Breezy Carver grins
[14:46] Matthew Masingh smiles
[14:46] Ghilayne Andrew: beautiful... it looks like it could be naughty.
[14:46] Canolli Capalini: with the push of the British empire into the middle east, you start seeing an arabesque influence into the same Biedermeier stylization.
[14:46] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: OOO the divan! oh joy! oh heaven!
[14:46] Canolli Capalini glares at bob.
[14:46] Dreddpiratebob Streeter throws up his arms in disgust
[14:47] Ceejay Writer gives a withering glare right and downward.
[14:47] Aisling Sinclair: furniture to recline upon
[14:47] Canolli Capalini: Indeed, it suited the romantic repression that crept through the Edwardian and Victorian age perfectly.
[14:47] vida Serrao: I want that.
[14:48] Elegia Underwood: And introduced the romance of the hareem... the odalisque... neh?
[14:48] Canolli Capalini: It should be noted at this time that Sir Richard Burton was scandalizing the Victorian literary world with his translation of 1001 Arabian Nights..
[14:48] Aisling Sinclair chuckles
[14:48] Ivniciix Wemyss: ...and yet...the Turkish influence of Cpntinental syle happened a full 199 years earlier yes?
[14:48] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Yay Burton!
[14:48] Ivniciix Wemyss: 199 years that is...on the Continent...
[14:49] Elegia Underwood chuckles.
[14:49] Elegia Underwood: It came & went...
[14:49] Canolli Capalini: Yes! Absolutely..
[14:49] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: like a hurried lover
[14:49] Dreddpiratebob Streeter sniggers
[14:49] Elegia Underwood: Bob!
[14:49] Elegia Underwood: What would you know of such things?!
[14:49] Canolli Capalini: somebody needs to wash that boy's mouth out with soap
[14:49] Matthew Masingh: The soap would be scared
[14:50] Breezy Carver tucks bob ..
[14:50] KlausWulfenbach Outlander: Frau Lowey has an urchin-washer....
[14:50] Ivniciix Wemyss: ...Motazts Abduction form the Seraglio being only one example....
[14:50] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: dont let them disturb you miss! we are all riveted
[14:50] vida Serrao is listening a LOT to the lady
[14:50] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: carry on!
[14:50] Breezy Carver rolls eyes at bob ..
[14:51] Darlingmonster Ember: ooo
[14:51] Darlingmonster Ember: lovely
[14:51] Aisling Sinclair: has this been reupholstered as well?
[14:51] Canolli Capalini: Here you see a very different stylization of sofa that is still encompassed in the biedermeier styling.
[14:51] Canolli Capalini: yes.. This is a much blockier and heavier style, without the curving lines, but still has the clean functionality.
[14:51] Canolli Capalini: Actually, i think this one is the original upholstery.
[14:51] Ceejay Writer: Doesn't look comfy, but very attractive.
[14:52] Fono Heninga: it's still pretty elegant
[14:52] Elegia Underwood: Exquisite fabric.
[14:52] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: pretty elephant?
[14:52] Canolli Capalini: It wasn't meant to be "comfortable".. it was meant to look austere.. plain.
[14:52] Ivniciix Wemyss: it does presage Craftsman style a bit doesn't it?
[14:52] Canolli Capalini: Exactly, my point.
[14:52] Darlingmonster Ember: nods
[14:52] Canolli Capalini: Wright and the Stickley Brothers owe a LOT to Mr. "Biedermeier".
[14:52] Elegia Underwood: It presages Shaker style, too. *chuckles*
[14:52] Aisling Sinclair: except for the neoclassical fabric
[14:53] Elegia Underwood: Ooooo.
[14:53] Elegia Underwood: Pretty.
[14:53] Elegia Underwood loves curves.
[14:53] Canolli Capalini: Here we have a hall table.. You have the generous curves and highly ornate veneer woodgrain.
[14:54] Ivniciix Wemyss: Dining room sideboard or hall stand one wonders
[14:54] Ivniciix Wemyss: answered...
[14:54] Canolli Capalini: hall Stand, Mr. Wemyss.. This piece is actually much smaller than a dining room sideboard.
[14:54] Canolli Capalini: A small writing desk..
[14:55] Aisling Sinclair: not like a raven at all
[14:55] Canolli Capalini: Here is my own version of that very desk.
[14:55] Canolli Capalini: I actually became a bit more ornate.. *chuckles softly* got carried away.
[14:55] Elegia Underwood: Are the legs on each side from a single piece, Miss Capalini?
[14:56] Canolli Capalini: On the picture it is.. on mine, I .. uhm.. well, I had an accident with the mahogany piece I'd obtained for it.
[14:56] vida Serrao: an accident Miss?
[14:56] Darlingmonster Ember: sweet work
[14:56] Canolli Capalini: but you still have the distinct contrast in wood grains..
[14:57] Canolli Capalini raises an eyebrow.. "An accident."
[14:57] Canolli Capalini: Now this is a very simple piece.. but I included it for the very reason of how well you can see the contrasting woodgrains.
[14:58] Elegia Underwood: But isn't it luscious?
[14:58] Ivniciix Wemyss: looks similar to a fold out card table also
[14:58] Fono Heninga: yum
[14:58] Canolli Capalini: Indeed..
[14:58] Aisling Sinclair: it's wonderful
[14:59] Ivniciix Wemyss: !!!!
[14:59] Kit SpiritWeaver: Ooh
[14:59] Canolli Capalini: Last but nt least, I've included a larger desk.. so yu can see the brass work that started appearing in the late 1800's.
[14:59] Jedburgh30 Dagger: oooooh
[14:59] Serafina Puchkina: oh my!
[14:59] Elegia Underwood: Ooooo...
[14:59] Ceejay Writer gasp and nearly swoons.
[14:59] Fono Heninga: Secession, here we come! Noice.
[14:59] Alaex Aeon: my... that is beautiful
[15:00] Tinus Koskinen makes another note for his office.
[15:00] Canolli Capalini: Which brings us to the last portion of my presentation.. a very short blurb on construction in SL..
[15:00] Aisling Sinclair: pieces like this make one want to get out the furniture polish and rub...*smiles dreamily*
[15:00] Ceejay Writer decides to hock everything to buy that.
[15:00] Darlingmonster Ember perks
[15:00] Saffia Widdershins: mmmmm
[15:00] Canolli Capalini: Many times I've had people tell me that "Oh, look.. your woods don't repeat", things of that nature.
[15:01] Darlingmonster Ember smiles
[15:01] Darlingmonster Ember wonders if we shall be discussing 'bookmatch' next
[15:01] Canolli Capalini: I construct furniture in this world to be as close to keeping with the pieces I love so much.. so therefore, no.. on many pieces, you can tell it's different woods, different grains, it looks like wood put together.
[15:02] Canolli Capalini: That is deliberate.. a furniture maker doesn't make a cabinet out of a single piece of wood.. and neither do I. :)
[15:02] Canolli Capalini: Are there . well, any questions?
[15:02] Tinus Koskinen: hundreds, but I have learned a lot.
[15:03] Dreddpiratebob Streeter raises hand
[15:03] Canolli Capalini: Oh god, what bob?
[15:03] Aisling Sinclair: how does Biedermeier relate to the American Empire style?
[15:03] Darlingmonster Ember hand up
[15:03] Matthew Masingh chuckles at Tinus and nods in agreement
[15:03] Dreddpiratebob Streeter waits his turn poltly
[15:03] Aisling Sinclair begs Bob's pardon
[15:04] Canolli Capalini: American empire was basically the American take on the beidermeier.
[15:05] Canolli Capalini: You had an immigration that came into the states that had viewed the more rich interiors of beidermeier and brought that ideal with them.
[15:05] Aisling Sinclair: *nods*...so many similarities
[15:05] Canolli Capalini: Very many similiarities.. however, you had a larger abundance of hard common woods.
[15:05] Canolli Capalini: So, you don't see quite so much veneer with the American Empire, and it tends to be heavier.
[15:06] Aisling Sinclair: i see, thank you
[15:06] Canolli Capalini: ye,s next?
[15:06] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: me!
[15:06] Darlingmonster Ember: M Streeter is next
[15:06] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: YAY!
[15:06] Canolli Capalini: Yes, bob.
[15:06] Dreddpiratebob Streeter clears his throat
[15:06] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: briefly, i would like you to tell me why on gods green earth anyone cares a damn fig for bloody furnitures?! also, Wheres the elephant you promised?
[15:06] Canolli Capalini rolls her eyes.
[15:06] Ceejay Writer tenses.
[15:07] Jasper Kiergarten: oh brother
[15:07] Jedburgh30 Dagger thumbs the butt of her revolver
[15:07] Canolli Capalini: Because Master Streeter, Furniture symbolizes power..
[15:07] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: it does?
[15:07] Fono Heninga: *hisses* ti's pretty things to park your bum on Bob, don't knock it
[15:07] Canolli Capalini: Why do you think the heads of organizations are called "Chairs"
[15:07] Jasper Kiergarten: oooh good answer
[15:07] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: SHHH she's talking about power
[15:07] Jedburgh30 Dagger raises hand
[15:07] Canolli Capalini: and if you'll give me just a bit.. I'll give you your damn elephant.
[15:07] Breezy Carver grins excellents !!
[15:07] Canolli Capalini: Next..
[15:07] Ceejay Writer giggles.
[15:07] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: HUZZAH!
[15:08] Ghilayne Andrew smiles. "Lovely presentation Coz."
[15:08] Breezy Carver: charming :)
[15:08] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Did the continental furniture makers use tropical woods like mahogany?
[15:08] Ivniciix Wemyss: (Bill Cosby is here?)
[15:08] Fono Heninga: also has a question
[15:08] Darlingmonster Ember: frowns
[15:08] Canolli Capalini: Yes Miss Dagger. they did.. however it was VERY expensive.
[15:08] Darlingmonster Ember: Puts hand higher
[15:08] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: thank you!
[15:08] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Miss Ember has a question
[15:09] Darlingmonster Ember smiles
[15:09] Canolli Capalini: You see a LOT of the veneers are made of rare woods.. hence why you see the aristocracy with the stylization in their homes and not the butchers, bakers and candlestick makers.
[15:09] Canolli Capalini: Yes, Miss Ember.
[15:09] Darlingmonster Ember: you mentioned beidermeier as antecedent to the Craftsman and Deco styles... since Steampunk styles recombine these things... are you aware of any trend to have furniture recombine in this fashion...besides your own work in SL?
[15:09] Matthew Masingh: Wow!
[15:10] Darlingmonster Ember: *eyes M Masingh
[15:10] Canolli Capalini: Excellent question! Are you speaking just in SL or furniture on a whole?
[15:10] Darlingmonster Ember: both please
[15:10] Canolli Capalini: Bidermeier attracts be specifically because of its' versatility.
[15:10] Canolli Capalini: me*
[15:10] Darlingmonster Ember: nods
[15:11] Ivniciix Wemyss: Ahem...
[15:11] Canolli Capalini: In RL, there isn't .. that i can think of.. a furniture stylization/era that encompasses SO many different earmarks of what makes it. [15:11] Darlingmonster Ember: ah
[15:11] Elegia Underwood whispers, "Pardon me. I must go. Wonderful lecture, Miss C. Thank you."
[15:11] Darlingmonster Ember: thank you
[15:11] Darlingmonster Ember makes notes
[15:11] Ivniciix Wemyss: Might I add that it also depends on how one defines Steampubnk...as materials or as motifs, such as the "gear" bottom to the round table that was shown
[15:11] Darlingmonster Ember: (( btw, your work is divine ))
[15:11] Canolli Capalini: You can have something be art deco, or gothic, or more craftsman.. and still be considered within the stylization.
[15:12] Ceejay Writer waves at Gia.
[15:12] Canolli Capalini: nods.. exactly Mr. Wemyss.
[15:12] Canolli Capalini: In SL.. well, everyone is recombining ideas and snatches of everything they see.
[15:12] Darlingmonster Ember: nods
[15:12] Darlingmonster Ember: exactly
[15:12] Canolli Capalini: As far as I know, i'm one of the few people that's trying to provide furniture that looks more historically accurate, whether or not it actually is.
[15:13] Canolli Capalini: There are so many wonderful furniture makers.. it's hard to pinpoint different styles.
[15:13] Fono Heninga: Ah! This is related to my question, if I may?
[15:13] Canolli Capalini: certainly.
[15:13] Fono Heninga: I was wondering - you mentioned earlier that you strayed out of style - is staying true to a style important for you as a maker?
[15:14] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: ((actually a fascinating talk. very very interesting. thank you kindly but i must go. bravo!))
[15:14] Ceejay Writer: ((Bye Elephant Boy!))
[15:14] Canolli Capalini laughs.. "Yes, actually it is. I take a great deal of pride in how detailed and true to a stylization I try to be, so yes.. it is actually very important."

[15:14] Canolli Capalini: ((thank you bob. :) ))
[15:14] Matthew Masingh: ((*laughs*))
[15:15] Dreddpiratebob Streeter jumps slightly and sneakily checks a device in his palm. looing around he slips off
[15:15] Tinus Koskinen: ((chuckles, see you Bob))
[15:15] Fono Heninga: *smiles* thank you very much.
[15:16] Canolli Capalini: And I'd like to add.. it's the very versatility of this style that *I* think makes it work perfectly in a steampunk setting.. even though I don't have gears in it.. or metallic pipes or such.. I think it's an elegant footnote to our "might have been" period.
[15:16] Ceejay Writer: I fully agree.
[15:16] Fono Heninga: *nods* a range of style makes things more ...real
[15:16] Jasper Kiergarten: indeed
[15:16] Darlingmonster Ember: precisely, bravo
[15:16] Darlingmonster Ember applauds
[15:16] Canolli Capalini: Any other questions?
[15:17] Ivniciix Wemyss: Appluads
[15:17] Saffia Widdershins applauds
[15:17] Jasper Kiergarten: well dark woods look so wonderful beside bras
[15:17] KlausWulfenbach Outlander applauds
[15:17] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Do we have any more questions?
[15:17] Darlingmonster Ember applauds
[15:17] Jasper Kiergarten: brass*
[15:17] KlausWulfenbach Outlander raises an eyebrow at Herr Kiergarten [
[15:17] Kit SpiritWeaver appauds
[15:17] Jedburgh30 Dagger: If you look to my right, you will see a bookcase over in the corner
[15:18] Fono Heninga: *applauds*
[15:18] Serafina Puchkina applauds
[15:18] Tinus Koskinen: Bravo Miss C. Bravo
[15:18] Tinus Koskinen APPLAUDS!!!
[15:18] Aisling Sinclair: .-'`'-. APPLAUSE APPLAUSE .-'`'-.
[15:18] Aisling Sinclair: very nicely done!
[15:18] Saffia Widdershins applauds
[15:18] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Miss Capalini has again very graciously given us another surpb craft
[15:18] Jedburgh30 Dagger: *surperb
[15:19] Canolli Capalini smiles.. Please.. the bookcase is my gift to you, for being such a wonderful and forgiving audience.
[15:19] Ceejay Writer: Ooooh craft time! I nearly forgot!
[15:19] Annechen Lowey: I wish I could see the other side of the room.
[15:19] Fono Heninga: oh! thank you! And thank you for a most interesting hour
[15:19] Serafina Puchkina: Wow, Miss C. Wonderful craft
[15:19] Darlingmonster Ember applauds
[15:19] Aisling Sinclair: it's lovely, thank you so much!
[15:19] Ceejay Writer: b-b-b-b-b-bookcase!
[15:19] Serafina Puchkina: Please take a copy of the craft
[15:19] Jedburgh30 Dagger: If there are no more questions for our speaker...
[15:20] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Thank you all again for your support, and your attendance!
[15:20] Serafina Puchkina: As always, the tip jar proceeds go directly to the speaker. thank you all for your generosity
[15:20] Tinus Koskinen: Thank you Jed for hosting us all.
[15:21] Bela Lubezki: indeed thank you all
[15:21] Serafina Puchkina: Yes, thanks Jed. Brilliant job today
[15:21] Serafina Puchkina: Thank you, everyone
[15:21] Aisling Sinclair: thank you, Jed, wonderful debut.
[15:21] Canolli Capalini whispers loudly, "Can I get down now?"
[15:21] Serafina Puchkina: Yes!
[15:21] Beq Janus applauds another wonderful salon
[15:21] KlausWulfenbach Outlander chuckles
[15:21] Saffia Widdershins: Thank you ... this has been fascinating :-)
[15:21] Ceejay Writer: CAnolli Capalini.... come on down!
[15:21] Kit SpiritWeaver chuckles
[15:21] Jedburgh30 Dagger: You're done darlin'
[15:22] Ceejay Writer: I can't wait to set up my bookshelf.
[15:22] Tinus Koskinen smiles "Ceejay with that arm perhaps several of us should assist."
[15:23] Bela Lubezki: and dont forget to un wear your chairs
[15:23] Ceejay Writer: "Oh... my yes. I keep forgetting. What a hindrance."
[15:23] Canolli Capalini smiles at all the "chair butt".
[15:23] Aisling Sinclair laughs
[15:23] Annechen Lowey: Moment, I must relog to see the bookcase and the next sim over.
[15:23] Meadow McBride waves and slips quietly away :)
[15:24] Serafina Puchkina: Thank you all for coming today
[15:24] Tinus Koskinen: well I am sure a couple of us can drag it to its place for you Miss Ceejay, save your strength for some writing.
[15:24] Jasper Kiergarten: a very engaging discussion
[15:24] Ceejay Writer smiles gratefully at Tinus.
[15:24] Jasper Kiergarten: bravo, Miss Capalini
[15:25] Canolli Capalini: I hope it wasn't too boring, Mr. Kiergarten.
[15:25] Ceejay Writer: Hmm. Cafe or loft... cafe or loft....
[15:25] Darlingmonster Ember: heavens no
[15:25] Tinus Koskinen: Definately, a good start for our future university.
[15:26] Matthew Masingh cheers for Miss Capalini!
[15:26] Darlingmonster Ember: huzzah
[15:26] Aisling Sinclair: huzzah!
[15:26] Ceejay Writer: I so dearly want that brass lined writing desk.
[15:26] Darlingmonster Ember smiles
[15:26] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Me too Ceejay
[15:27] Ivniciix Wemyss: isn't this one on the aethrtrop maple inside?
[15:27] Canolli Capalini: It is maple..
[15:27] Annechen Lowey: Ah, at least there is no more abyss...
.[15:28] Serafina Puchkina: Thank you everyone!
[15:29] Serafina Puchkina: And thank you, Miss Canolli
[15:29] KlausWulfenbach Outlander: Ah, good. Can you see it now?
[15:29] Ceejay Writer os off to the cafe for some coffee and chores.
[15:29] LillieJay Mills: Thank you Miss Canolli!
[15:29] Bela Lubezki: i have to go. thank you for hosting and presenting, see you all
[15:29] Annechen Lowey: Yes, sir.
[15:29] Canolli Capalini: You're welcome.. It's a wonder I didn't get overcome with the vapors.
[15:29] LillieJay Mills: nice to have seen everyone :)
[15:29] Serafina Puchkina: Bye Ceejay, bye LillieJay
[15:30] Beq Janus: Alll do not forget that there is another sign on the way out that will allow you to donate to the Salon itself and recognise the efforts of those beyond the speakers who run this show [
15:30] Aisling Sinclair: it was a wonderful program, Miss Capalini, thank you so much
[15:30] Jedburgh30 Dagger: It was wonderful
[15:30] Serafina Puchkina: Thanks, Beq. I forgot. Yes, that goes to tier for this place
[15:31] Lelani Carver: Very enjoyable, thank you all so much.
[15:31] Darlingmonster Ember: curtseys to the parlor group
[15:31] Darlingmonster Ember: ciao for now gentles
[15:31] Canolli Capalini: Thank yo Aisling.