Amour! Unedited transcript

[13:13] Ambrose Steampunk: I vote there be a salon on food!
[13:13] Leonardo Serrao: I am getting hungry
[13:13] Viv Trafalgar: I make them with Old Bay though
[13:13] Bookworm Hienrichs: Hello, Sera!
[13:13] Jasper Kiergarten: would you like a Salon chair Miss Strathearn?
[13:13] Viv Trafalgar: We are talking about it! Nom!
[13:13] Serafina Puchkina: Oh Mr. Steampunk there will be there will be
[13:13] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Mmmm you would former Baltimorean [winks]
[13:13] Viv Trafalgar: Moi?
[13:13] Jedburgh30 Dagger: pintos and corn bread
[13:13] Augustus Dayafter: I am more than willing to send people that are nice a care package with fried green maters
[13:13] Ambrose Steampunk: Yes!
[13:13] Viv Trafalgar: grins. and Eastern Shore
[13:13] Serafina Puchkina: Hello everyone!
[13:13] Ambrose Steampunk: Id be willing to contribute
[13:13] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Viv's from Balmer hon
[13:13] Jasper Kiergarten: hi sera
[13:13] Redgrrl Llewellyn: i make a mean crabcake
[13:13] Viv Trafalgar: ::pays Dr. Dayafter postage::
[13:14] Redgrrl Llewellyn: as am i Jed [grins]
[13:14] Penelope Strathearn: A salon chair would be lovely
[13:14] Redgrrl Llewellyn: hon
[13:14] Viv Trafalgar: I lurve the crabcake at Gertrudes
[13:14] Augustus Dayafter: seriously, I love to cook, ask Mael
[13:14] Jedburgh30 Dagger: I know that Red..
[13:14] Maelstorme Smythe: he actually is quite good.
[13:14] Ambrose Steampunk: Isn’t cooking great! We’re making consume from scratch in class tomorrow
[13:14] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Oh! [blushes and grins and goes back to spraying Aqua Net on her hair]
[13:14] Serafina Puchkina: Oh my, Red! What lovely pictures
[13:14] Jedburgh30 Dagger: you had some familiar haunts...
[13:14] Redgrrl Llewellyn: thanks!
[13:15] Softpaw Sommer: Most of my speical cooking these days is for High teas or...Renniasance era foods
[13:15] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Mmmm High Tea...scotch eggs......
[13:15] Serafina Puchkina: That sounds interesting Miss Sommer
[13:15] Redgrrl Llewellyn: i'm getting peckish, too!
[13:15] Viv Trafalgar: Berthas!
[13:15] Bookworm Hienrichs chuckles.
[13:15] Remington Thursday: Most of mine these days involves Hot Pockets.
[13:15] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Mmm Bertha's and John Sevens
[13:15] Viv Trafalgar: hah
[13:15] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Ltd.
[13:15] Viv Trafalgar: nods
[13:16] Jedburgh30 Dagger: mmmmm scotch eggs
[13:16] Serafina Puchkina: Penelope! You look lovely!
[13:16] Softpaw Sommer: ((if you like loose teas I recommend adagio.com and browse the blends section..omg some of them are heaven in a teacup))
[13:16] Serafina Puchkina assumes her position for salon
[13:17] Serafina Puchkina: So nobody is going to ask what I had to do to get these beads? Rats!
[13:17] Bookworm Hienrichs: Sorry--didn't see them.
[13:17] Viv Trafalgar: What did you have to do??
[13:17] Maelstorme Smythe: I just assumed.
[13:17] Jedburgh30 Dagger: i was guessing Sera
[13:17] Remington Thursday: I just assumed...
[13:17] Ambrose Steampunk: ((i have a rooibos blend that costs $50 a pound))
[13:17] Viv Trafalgar: and did it involve corsets?
[13:18] Remington Thursday: lol
[13:18] Serafina Puchkina winks
[13:18] Maelstorme Smythe: jinx Rem
[13:18] Maelstorme Smythe: you owe me a Coke
[13:18] Remington Thursday: ...
[13:18] Remington Thursday: I so do.
[13:18] Remington Thursday grins
[13:18] Leonardo Serrao: What did you had to do to get thoses beads Serafina?
[13:19] Maelstorme Smythe: Librarians gone wild at Mardi Gras?
[13:19] Jedburgh30 Dagger: woo!
[13:19] Bookworm Hienrichs laughs.
[13:19] Serafina Puchkina grins
[13:19] Penelope Strathearn: *giggle*
[13:19] Maelstorme Smythe: I'd buy that for a Linden.
[13:19] Jedburgh30 Dagger: is there a picture?
[13:19] Redgrrl Llewellyn: heh heh that will be next Oct in Charlotte NC!
[13:19] Jedburgh30 Dagger: wha?
[13:19] Maelstorme Smythe: I'm there.
[13:19] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Librarians Gone Wild
[13:20] Maelstorme Smythe: You're joking.
[13:20] Jedburgh30 Dagger: 2 hours from the casa
[13:20] Viv Trafalgar: what am I not seeing?
[13:20] Serafina Puchkina snorts
[13:20] Redgrrl Llewellyn: ((well, it's more an educational conference....for librarians ))
[13:20] Remington Thursday: Oops. Sorry jed. :)
[13:20] Maelstorme Smythe: heh.
[13:20] Jedburgh30 Dagger: I'll drink to that!
[13:21] Remington Thursday: lol
[13:21] Serafina Puchkina: Hello Bob
[13:21] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: hullo!
[13:21] Maelstorme Smythe: Allo Bob!
[13:21] Bookworm Hienrichs: Hello, Bob!
[13:21] Ambrose Steampunk: BOB!
[13:21] Petunia Schism: Hello Bob
[13:21] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: ahoy! Well met! Good day!
[13:21] Remington Thursday: Mael, I think Jed got your coke. You will have to take it up with her. ;)
[13:21] Redgrrl Llewellyn: oh Bob is back...[writes him back into her script]
[13:21] Maelstorme Smythe: bah
[13:21] Remington Thursday: I added a bit, though.
[13:21] Jedburgh30 Dagger: woo!
[13:22] Maelstorme Smythe: ooh thx mate
[13:22] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Penny! [smiles warmly and waves] hello dear!
[13:22] Remington Thursday: There yu go, mael. :D
[13:22] Maelstorme Smythe: ooh I gotz 2
[13:22] Ambrose Steampunk: Bob i wish to speek with you!
[13:22] Penelope Strathearn: Hello
[13:22] Maelstorme Smythe: this will licker me up well for the show
[13:22] Penelope Strathearn: *waves*
[13:22] Remington Thursday: I just needed the coke. I had the rest. ;)
[13:22] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: ok?
[13:23] Bookworm Hienrichs: Aren't you doing the auction, though, Mael?
[13:23] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: but i didn’t do it
[13:23] Penelope Strathearn: I don't mind Penny, but I refer Nell. *smile*
[13:23] Maelstorme Smythe: oh aye
[13:23] Augustus Dayafter: Ahoy there Zen
[13:23] Maelstorme Smythe: hence why I'm drinking
[13:23] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: Hello everyone
[13:23] Viv Trafalgar: Hello Mr. Mandelbrot!
[13:23] Serafina Puchkina: Hello Mr Mandelbrot
[13:23] Maelstorme Smythe: Ahoy Zen
[13:23] Bookworm Hienrichs: Oh, dear...
[13:23] Viv Trafalgar: oh good. Drunk auctioneer
[13:23] Viv Trafalgar: yayyyy
[13:23] Bookworm Hienrichs: Hello, Mr. Mandelbrot.
[13:23] Ambrose Steampunk: thats the first half of what i owe ya
[13:23] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: and whats that for sir?
[13:23] Remington Thursday: Hey, with Mael, it makes it all the more interesting!
[13:24] Ambrose Steampunk: You forgot didnt ya?
[13:24] Maelstorme Smythe: *winks*
[13:24] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: yes! totally!
[13:24] Maelstorme Smythe: *drinks*
[13:24] Ambrose Steampunk: lol
[13:24] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: thank you!
[13:24] Jasper Kiergarten: holler if anyone needs a salon chair
[13:24] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: Are there more chairs?
[13:24] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: yer an honest man!
[13:24] Augustus Dayafter: no, dont leave us Viv
[13:24] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: CHAIR HERE PLEASE
[13:24] Jedburgh30 Dagger: there goes the adult supervision
[13:24] Augustus Dayafter laughs.
[13:25] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: Thank you
[13:25] Jasper Kiergarten: indeed
[13:25] Redgrrl Llewellyn: hi Zen! [smiles and waves]
[13:25] Ambrose Steampunk: Ill get you the rest as soon as i can
[13:25] Serafina Puchkina: Welcome Miss Oh
[13:25] Remington Thursday: Jasper, you are far too nice. :)
[13:25] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: no hurry, hell i'd forgot all about it
[13:25] t1g3y Oh: Greetings
[13:25] Ambrose Steampunk: lol
[13:25] Viv Trafalgar: Hello Tigy!
[13:25] Maelstorme Smythe: hello ma'am.
[13:25] Jasper Kiergarten: how so Rem?
[13:26] t1g3y Oh: Hello Miss Viv
[13:26] Redgrrl Llewellyn: ((curses at her fingers urging them to pick the right keys for Godssake today of all days!!))
[13:26] Remington Thursday: I would have made him stand. Nothing personal Zen.
[13:26] Remington Thursday winks
[13:26] Serafina Puchkina: Everyone, help yourself to food and drinks
[13:26] Remington Thursday grins
[13:26] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: Rem: grrrrrrrrr
[13:26] Jasper Kiergarten: lol@ Rem
[13:27] Jasper Kiergarten: Tigs you have a chair?
[13:27] Viv Trafalgar: OOoh lovely dress Tigy!
[13:27] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: Rem - grrrrrrrrrr
[13:27] Viv Trafalgar: SS?
[13:27] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: chairs are for the weak!
[13:27] Remington Thursday: Hay, it's not easy being both crochety AND lecherous, you know!
[13:27] Redgrrl Llewellyn: but you do it so well Remi! [winks]
[13:27] Viv Trafalgar: everyone be at ease, bob's out of c-4 at the moment
[13:27] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: oops ... that's TWO grrrs
[13:28] Ambrose Steampunk stands up abruptly
[13:28] t1g3y Oh: Why thank you Miss Viv
[13:28] Leonardo Serrao: I have my stick to lean on.
[13:28] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: is cap'n Smythe the bouncer?
[13:28] Jedburgh30 Dagger: nope
[13:28] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: what is he then?
[13:28] Redgrrl Llewellyn: he's eyecandy
[13:28] Bookworm Hienrichs laughs.
[13:28] Bookworm Hienrichs: Ceejay would certainly agree.
[13:28] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: eeeuuuwwww
[13:28] Softpaw Sommer thinks she'd like a chair now so she can turn off her ao
[13:28] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: but he's a man!
[13:28] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Yup...she coined the phrase
[13:29] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: i thought you had to be a girl to be looked at
[13:29] t1g3y Oh: I shall stand; thank you kindly Jasper
[13:29] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: you growed ups are wierder than ever
[13:29] Bookworm Hienrichs: So what do girls look at then, Bob?
[13:29] Jasper Kiergarten: dont' have to use it if you don't want to Softpaw :)
[13:29] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: clothes and shoes
[13:29] Augustus Dayafter: he does have all that long hair with shells and feathers in it Bob
[13:29] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: and lfowers and birds and stuff
[13:29] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: boring stuff
[13:29] Ambrose Steampunk: Its true Bob... I even think grown ups are weird
[13:29] Maelstorme Smythe: wot?
[13:29] Remington Thursday: You are pretty astute for your age, Bob.
[13:29] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: Bob, you actually have a lot in common with Mael. You're both Fanboys. HAHAHA
[13:30] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: o.o
[13:30] Maelstorme Smythe: Fanboys o' wot?
[13:30] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: they seem to think i like ceejay
[13:30] Ambrose Steampunk: Awwwwww
[13:30] Augustus Dayafter: you do Bob
[13:30] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: they are making jokes
[13:30] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: I DO NOT!
[13:30] Augustus Dayafter: I saw the t-shirt you were wearing
[13:30] Softpaw Sommer: .((..I did something wrong. with the chair....))
[13:30] Maelstorme Smythe: lol...
[13:30] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: ARG! not again!
[13:30] Viv Trafalgar: the I love Ceejay tshirt?
[13:30] Augustus Dayafter: the very one
[13:30] Ambrose Steampunk: Bob and Ceejay Sittin in a tree! A B C D E F G!!!!
[13:30] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: SHE IS HORRIBLE!
[13:30] Viv Trafalgar: Oh you wear the chair miss Somer
[13:31] Augustus Dayafter: Ambrose, that is mean... you know Bob cant read
[13:31] Softpaw Sommer: I am!
[13:31] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: she's always nasty to me and is a girl and EVERYTHING
[13:31] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: Bob, the more you deny, the more we know it's true !!
[13:31] Bookworm Hienrichs nods.
[13:31] Ambrose Steampunk: iM SORRY I DIDNT TAKE HIS ILLITERACY INTO ACCOUNT...
[13:31] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: but
[13:31] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: ]but
[13:31] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: but
[13:31] Bookworm Hienrichs: Methinks the gentleman doth protest too much.
[13:31] Ambrose Steampunk: not to mention he's short
[13:31] Viv Trafalgar: mmmhmmm
[13:32] Augustus Dayafter: hush Bob, grown folks are talking
[13:32] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Ceej is SO lucky to have Bob as a fanboy!]
[13:32] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: bloody hell
[13:33] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: Listen, don't feel sorry for Bob. What about those of us here who have LESS THAN AN HOUR OF FREEDOM LEFT ?????
[13:33] Bookworm Hienrichs laughs.
[13:33] Dreddpiratebob Streeter laughs.
[13:33] Ambrose Steampunk: lol
[13:33] Maelstorme Smythe: lol
[13:33] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: i might buy Gus and make him clean all the toilets in Babbage
[13:34] Serafina Puchkina pats Mr Mandelbrot's hand
[13:34] Redgrrl Llewellyn: grins] ......this IS a bit disconcerting..being SOLD
[13:34] Ambrose Steampunk: i forgot the auction!
[13:34] Jedburgh30 Dagger: there are toilets in Babbage?
[13:34] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Patch threatened to buy me!
[13:34] Penelope Strathearn: *grin*
[13:34] Remington Thursday: there are toilets in babbage?
[13:34] Bookworm Hienrichs grins at Jed.
[13:34] Remington Thursday: LOL
[13:34] Redgrrl Llewellyn: YAY here comes Syl!
[13:34] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: yuk Jed! what ya beenn using?!
[13:34] Sylvie Franizzi: Hello!
[13:34] Bookworm Hienrichs: Hello, Sylvie!
[13:34] Remington Thursday: Damn... I need to type faster!
[13:34] Serafina Puchkina: Hello Sylvie!!!
[13:34] Redgrrl Llewellyn: hi Sylvie!! [waves]
[13:34] Viv Trafalgar: haha
[13:34] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: Hi Sylvie
[13:34] Sylvie Franizzi: Hey Red!
[13:34] Jedburgh30 Dagger: joke lag
[13:34] Penelope Strathearn: hello
[13:34] Viv Trafalgar: you must type fast - this is salon
[13:34] Ambrose Steampunk: hahaha i should buy Red and make her prune the roses i should be pruning!!!
[13:35] Viv Trafalgar: Wit: speedround
[13:35] Jedburgh30 Dagger: you must answer your joke in the form of a question
[13:35] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Ahem...my date is a Pirate experience not a gardening experience!
[13:35] Remington Thursday: This is Salon! Two man enter, one man leave!
[13:35] Ambrose Steampunk: lol
[13:35] Jedburgh30 Dagger: good thing he didn't mention the ladies
[13:35] Serafina Puchkina: First rule of Salon is that no one talks about Salon
[13:36] Bookworm Hienrichs laughs.
[13:36] Remington Thursday: lol
[13:36] Viv Trafalgar: Hello Ceejay!
[13:36] Serafina Puchkina: Hello Ceejay
[13:36] Ceejay Writer: HEllo!
[13:36] Penelope Strathearn: Hello! *smile*
[13:36] Bookworm Hienrichs: Ceejay!
[13:36] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Mrs Streeter!
[13:36] Ceejay Writer: Is there some dusty display case I should just go sit in?
[13:36] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: Ceejay!!
[13:36] Serafina Puchkina laughs
[13:36] Bookworm Hienrichs laughs.
[13:36] Remington Thursday: Hello Ceejay!
[13:36] Petunia Schism: Hi Ceejay!
[13:36] Ceejay Writer laughs. "Mrs. STreeter, oh lord."
[13:36] Redgrrl Llewellyn: YAY Ceejay! your Fans and Fanboy is here!
[13:36] Viv Trafalgar: haha
[13:36] Ambrose Steampunk: sounds lovely red!
[13:37] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: CJ BOTH your fanboys are here HAHAHA
[13:37] Bookworm Hienrichs laughs.
[13:37] Viv Trafalgar: Ceejay - look at Red's research when it rezzes - it's amazing
[13:37] Remington Thursday: Joke lag. Zen, you're out.
[13:37] Bookworm Hienrichs: Good day, Doctor.
[13:37] Serafina Puchkina: Hello Doctor
[13:37] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Syl! heya chica!
[13:37] Maelstorme Smythe: Ceejay!
[13:37] Sylvie Franizzi: Hey there, Jed!
[13:37] Doctor Obolensky: Good afternoon, invisible people.
[13:37] Sylvie Franizzi: Aw, look Bob! Ceejay's here!
[13:37] Ceejay Writer: Hello, visible evil!
[13:37] Jasper Kiergarten: doc
[13:37] Penelope Strathearn: *laugh*
[13:37] Bookworm Hienrichs chcukles.
[13:37] Ambrose Steampunk: CJ dear..... your skirtless
[13:37] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: SHUT UP SHUT UP!
[13:38] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Dr. O.....[grins] hello dear...now no use of your hypno ray unlesss it raises more money for charity!
[13:38] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: Rem, you wouldn't know in from out if it came up & bit you
[13:38] Ceejay Writer: Hello, Bob! Give us a kiss?
[13:38] Sylvie Franizzi snorts
[13:38] Ceejay Writer: Skirt s on... maybe not rezzing. Hmm.
[13:38] Augustus Dayafter: Awwww Bob
[13:38] Remington Thursday: Absolutely true. I have documentation.
[13:38] Ambrose Steampunk: Bob and Ceejay sitting in a tree (again)!!! A B C D E F G (AGAIN) !!!
[13:38] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: Oh, sure, CJ ... nice try
[13:38] Remington Thursday: I was out before in was in.
[13:39] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: ARG!
[13:39] Serafina Puchkina waves her hand: I can see your skirt Ceejay but I might not have those special glasses
[13:39] Penelope Strathearn: I see a skirt, Ceejay.
[13:39] Augustus Dayafter: Hello there Sylvie
[13:39] Augustus Dayafter: hi Ceejay
[13:39] Bookworm Hienrichs: What we don't see is the underskirt.
[13:39] Ceejay Writer: This skirt IS somewhat.... sheer. That might be shocking you.
[13:39] Penelope Strathearn: But if you don’t like how it's rezzing, you can give t to me
[13:39] Ceejay Writer: Hell, Doctor!
[13:39] Sylvie Franizzi smiles "Hey Gus!"
[13:39] Ceejay Writer: Nice try, Penelope!
[13:39] Redgrrl Llewellyn: risks crashing and cams to ogle Ceejay's nether limbs]
[13:40] Bookworm Hienrichs laughs.
[13:40] Penelope Strathearn: I'm *this* close to being able to buy that dress...if I don't eat for a month
[13:40] Ceejay Writer: I do know I'm not going to sit down in this skirt. Been there, flashed that.
[13:40] Softpaw Sommer: yeah I'm sitting properly now!
[13:40] Penelope Strathearn: Eating is overrated
[13:41] Sylvie Franizzi: The dress looks gorgeous, Ceej!
[13:41] Bookworm Hienrichs laughs.
[13:41] Ceejay Writer: It’s scandalous but beautiful, right Sylvie?
[13:41] Jedburgh30 Dagger: wow
[13:41] Jedburgh30 Dagger: it is pretty Ceejay
[13:41] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: That really is nice, Ceejay. *trying not to keer*
[13:41] Serafina Puchkina: Hello Breezy
[13:41] Sylvie Franizzi: Exactly! In proper Babbage fashion!
[13:41] Bookworm Hienrichs: Hi, Breezy!
[13:41] Serafina Puchkina: Welcome!
[13:41] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: *leer even
[13:41] Ceejay Writer: Keer all you like, Zen! *winks*
[13:41] Ambrose Steampunk: Now... if one wins the auction when is the date?
[13:41] Breezy Carver: Hi ☆smiles ☆
[13:42] Redgrrl Llewellyn: hi Lady Skusting!!!
[13:42] Augustus Dayafter: Ceejay, you can always have a seat over at the Gangplank... you know how well the chairs there like you
[13:42] Penelope Strathearn: ((Either my vision is doing weird things, or this has turned into a cyberpunk salon. Neons.))
[13:42] Remington Thursday: hello Breezy!
[13:42] Ceejay Writer: Methinks you need new glasses, Penelope.
[13:42] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Ceejay....[grins] you have that cog dress on! gorgeous!
[13:42] Sylvie Franizzi: Breezy!!!
[13:42] Ceejay Writer: indeed, Red! I HAD to have it.
[13:42] Ambrose Steampunk: because RL has called my typist to work from 4-9SLT
[13:42] Breezy Carver: Hi Remington ! hello Sylvie !
[13:43] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: Hi Breezy !!
[13:43] Ceejay Writer: Gus, those gangplank chairs were bred for mischief, I swear.
[13:43] Bookworm Hienrichs: Dates are probably to be mutually agreed on.
[13:43] Viv Trafalgar: Hello Breezy!!
[13:43] Bookworm Hienrichs: Dates and times, that is.
[13:43] Augustus Dayafter: no clue what you mean Ceej...
[13:43] Breezy Carver: grins Hello Zen .. hi Viv !!
[13:43] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: yayy miss carver!
[13:43] Augustus Dayafter: Hi Breezy
[13:43] The Lady Skusting: glares at Bob ...
[13:43] Breezy Carver: hi ya Gus ☆smiles ☆
[13:43] Maelstorme Smythe: Hello Brezzy.
[13:43] Serafina Puchkina: I agree with you Ceejay about the Gangplank chairs
[13:43] Sylvie Franizzi: Have a seat, Gus. You don't have to worry about flashing anything!
[13:44] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: sure Gus o.o
[13:44] Jasper Kiergarten: HI Breezy
[13:44] Augustus Dayafter: Oh, and don't you look lovely Sylvie
[13:44] Sylvie Franizzi blushes "Why thank you!"
[13:44] Maelstorme Smythe: *dipsnogs Ceejay*
[13:44] Breezy Carver: big smile hello Capt hi Jasper !!
[13:44] Serafina Puchkina: Sylvie always looks lovely
[13:44] Sylvie Franizzi: Aw, thanks Sera!
[13:44] Augustus Dayafter: She was born that way Miss Sera
[13:45] Serafina Puchkina: I think you are right, Doctor Dayafter!
[13:45] Softpaw Sommer: Hey breezy..hows Dickens feeling after last night?
[13:45] Ceejay Writer likes being dipsnogged.
[13:45] Augustus Dayafter: did somebody just get "dipsnogged"?
[13:45] Sylvie Franizzi: Ceejay.
[13:45] Ambrose Steampunk: lol
[13:45] Viv Trafalgar: hmm!
[13:45] Ceejay Writer: Indeed, Doctor Dayafter. Dipped. And Snogged.
[13:45] Viv Trafalgar: ohhh
[13:45] Viv Trafalgar: lovely!
[13:46] Breezy Carver: grins awww hi ya Soft Paws dinkens was very very bad !!
[13:46] Augustus Dayafter: I think Bob wants to dipsnog ya too Ceejay
[13:46] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: omg ... in the Salon?
[13:46] Sylvie Franizzi: I think if we ever have a street fair we should set up a Dipsnog Booth.
[13:46] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: i bloody do not
[13:46] Serafina Puchkina: I missed Ceejay getting digsnogged. Do it again please
[13:46] Remington Thursday: lol
[13:46] Softpaw Sommer: I think Bob needs to grow another foot before he can
[13:46] Ambrose Steampunk: HE BLOODY DO DOSE!!!
[13:46] Maelstorme Smythe: Ceejay and I can take turns at the booth.
[13:46] Ceejay Writer looks at Bob. Dipsnog, kiddo?
[13:46] Petunia Schism: you must be THIS tall to dipsnog CJ
[13:46] Augustus Dayafter: he would look strange with 3 feet...
[13:46] Viv Trafalgar: LOL
[13:46] Maelstorme Smythe: *dipsnogs Ceejay again*
[13:46] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: i feel sick
[13:46] Ceejay Writer swoons.
[13:47] Softpaw Sommer: in height Gus...not another foot *giggles*
[13:47] Breezy Carver: oh how adorable is the opal's dress. It should be required ownership for Ladies of Babbage being we all have it grins !
[13:47] Serafina Puchkina: ooohhhh
[13:47] Augustus Dayafter: Bob... you want a hug?
[13:47] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: i never realised how brave Mael was
[13:47] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: or immune to germs
[13:47] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: NO!
[13:47] Viv Trafalgar: imagines a figure with its arm out like an amusement ride... but the figure looks like bob...
[13:47] Ambrose Steampunk: apparently Softpaw and I dipsnogged last night due to an unwanted animation
[13:47] Serafina Puchkina shouts:Hellloooooo Reghan!
[13:47] Augustus Dayafter: EVERYBODY!!! Hug Bob and dipsnog Ceejay
[13:47] Breezy Carver: huggsssss bob and and kisses his head kid ya really need a both
[13:47] Ambrose Steampunk: awwww
[13:47] Serafina Puchkina gets in line
[13:48] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: dont anyone dare!
[13:48] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: Red, will you be able to top all this dipsnogging?
[13:48] Bookworm Hienrichs laughs.
[13:48] Breezy Carver: bath and soap
[13:48] Softpaw Sommer: Yes it was quite embarrassing and Ambrose was lucky my husband was off working on his Hoard :P
[13:48] Ambrose Steampunk givs Bob a big bear hug
[13:48] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Hi Bob
[13:48] Viv Trafalgar: I don't know - it is the Amour salon
[13:48] Jasper Kiergarten: I have the chairs, if anyone would like one
[13:48] Viv Trafalgar: we might be delayed on account of dipsnogging
[13:48] Augustus Dayafter hugs Bob and shakes him like a ragdoll
[13:48] Sylvie Franizzi: Aw, you're just an adorable pile fluffy cuteness, Bob!
[13:48] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Regahn dear...how lovely you could make it! Viv ...could you pls give Reghan a salon chair?
[13:48] Maelstorme Smythe: no, I'm done
[13:48] Jedburgh30 Dagger: dipsnoggery run amok
[13:48] Maelstorme Smythe: fer now
[13:48] Serafina Puchkina: Hello Gatsby!
[13:48] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: i hate you all
[13:48] Serafina Puchkina: Hello Mr. Birman
[13:48] Reghan Straaf smiles. "Thank you, Captain Red."
[13:48] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Gats! [smiles and waves]
[13:48] Jedburgh30 Dagger: but we loooove you Bob
[13:49] Elina Koskinen: Has anyone seen Watson?
[13:49] Serafina Puchkina: Hello sir!
[13:49] Riven Homewood is Offline
[13:49] Redgrrl Llewellyn: we do LURVE you Bob!
[13:49] Ambrose Steampunk: DIPSMOGGIN IS HEREBY LIMITED TO... who cares just do it
[13:49] Dreddpiratebob Streeter shudders
[13:49] Serafina Puchkina: Hello Mrs Sands
[13:49] Elilka Sieyes: Sorry about that -- rough sim crossing!
[13:49] Elina Koskinen: Ah there you are!
[13:49] Bernard Birman: hello
[13:49] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: Hello Miss Reghan
[13:49] Mosseveno Tenk is Online
[13:49] Reghan Straaf: Hello, Mr. ZenRascal. Nice to see you again.
[13:49] Ambrose Steampunk: Hello Dr Watson, Mr Holmes
[13:49] Leonardo Serrao: "crowded house"
[13:49] Serafina Puchkina: Hello Dr Watson and Mr. Holmes
[13:49] Serafina Puchkina: Welcome
[13:49] Jedburgh30 Dagger: 80's band?
[13:49] Redgrrl Llewellyn: ((closing out all her tabs now to get ready to be serious...how exhausting!))
[13:50] Elilka Sieyes: Hello again, Miss Puchkina
[13:50] Redgrrl Llewellyn: loves the Finn brothers!
[13:50] Breezy Carver: hi ya dr watson and mr holmes ☆smiles ☆ wavessss
[13:50] Serafina Puchkina: If anyone needs a chair, please see Jasper Kiergarten
[13:50] Reghan Straaf: And hello, everybody.
[13:50] Bookworm Hienrichs: Good day, Mr. Holmes, Dr. Watson!
[13:50] Serafina Puchkina: He doesn't throw them very hard
[13:50] Softpaw Sommer: Oohh Mr. Holmes..I have heard so much about you
[13:50] Viv Trafalgar: Hello Holmes and Watson!
[13:50] Elina Koskinen: Greetings everyone
[13:50] Ambrose Steampunk: 10 min warning
[13:50] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Breezy steals her ☆smiles ☆ and waves again just for extra love
[13:50] Elilka Sieyes: A pleasure to see you again, Miss Breezy -- I saw you fly overhead just the other day :)
[13:50] Sylvie Franizzi: So, where are your scuzzy little comrades, Bob?
[13:51] Elilka Sieyes shuffles in and tries to find a space without squashing any toes.
[13:51] Viv Trafalgar: ok, if you're an auctionee, you should have received an Im from me telling you what order you are - when the auction begins, please try to make it to the stage
[13:51] Ambrose Steampunk: scuzzy or fuzzy?
[13:51] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Holmes and Watson...[waves and blows a kiss] so glad you could make it!
[13:51] Viv Trafalgar: if you feel you can't do that without crashing - then make some noise or something :)
[13:51] Viv Trafalgar: but that's later –
[13:51] Viv Trafalgar: we'll start the salon in 10 minutes folks
[13:51] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: SCUZZY - yes, that's the word I was looking for. Thank you Sylvie
[13:51] Doctor Obolensky: tart the salon?
[13:51] Sylvie Franizzi: No worries, Zen!
[13:52] Penelope Strathearn: *giggle*
[13:52] Doctor Obolensky: I would have thought it was tarty enough.
[13:52] Redgrrl Llewellyn: hey! who are you calling a tart!
[13:52] Ambrose Steampunk: hahaha good on Doctor
[13:52] Viv Trafalgar: tarts will be saved for the cooking salon!
[13:52] Serafina Puchkina: We have refreshments over on the table if you are feeling peckish
[13:52] Viv Trafalgar: we need good tarty recipes
[13:52] Augustus Dayafter: tarts?
[13:52] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: Hi Doc
[13:52] Sylvie Franizzi: There you are, Bob. Free food.
[13:53] Serafina Puchkina is so not touching the tart comment
[13:53] Ambrose Steampunk: i have a great fig tart recipe!
[13:53] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: i don’t give a fig
[13:53] Ambrose Steampunk: served with cheesees
[13:53] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: or a tart
[13:53] Ambrose Steampunk: Well then none for you bob
[13:53] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: i know a song about rhubarb
[13:53] Remington Thursday: mmmm.... cheeses....
[13:53] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: that has tarts in it
[13:53] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: Oh Bob, that's just a fig newton of your imagination
[13:53] Ceejay Writer: No singing, Bob!
[13:54] Remington Thursday: lol
[13:54] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: pah!
[13:54] Ambrose Steampunk: lol
[13:54] Ambrose Steampunk: fig newton
[13:54] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: heheh
[13:54] Serafina Puchkina: Hello Miss
[13:54] Remington Thursday: OK Zen, you're in again. ;)
[13:54] Augustus Dayafter: was he out?
[13:54] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: Well gosh Rem thanx a zillion :-/
[13:54] Leonardo Serrao: Hope my pc will hold it, it starts to sound as an expresso machine.
[13:55] Serafina Puchkina: If you need a chair, please see Jasper
[13:55] Remington Thursday: lol
[13:55] Reghan Straaf: Thank you for the chair.
[13:55] Jasper Kiergarten: certainly :)
[13:55] Reghan Straaf: Er, thank you, too.
[13:55] Reghan Straaf smiles.
[13:55] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: pay no attention to Rem. He doesn't know which side of the door he's on
[13:55] Remington Thursday: Also true.
[13:56] Remington Thursday: I keep pushing, but the thing just won't open.
[13:56] Serafina Puchkina: Welcome Mr Undertone
[13:56] Jasper Kiergarten: anyone else without a chair who would like one?
[13:56] Breezy Carver: geeez
[13:56] Elilka Sieyes: Hello, Mister Undertone.
[13:56] Breezy Carver: hi gals grins
[13:56] Ghilayne Andrew smiles. "hello, Breezy!"
[13:56] Breezy Carver: good to se ya both
[13:56] Serafina Puchkina: hello Mayor
[13:56] Viv Trafalgar: Hello Miss Straaf!
[13:56] Wiggy Undertone: Hello Mr. Holmes
[13:56] Viv Trafalgar: And Mr. Undertone!
[13:57] Reghan Straaf: Hello, Breezy, that's quite the dress!
[13:57] Breezy Carver: (( danty hello ya >> ))
[13:57] Wiggy Undertone: Hello VIv :-)
[13:57] Reghan Straaf smiles. "Hello, Miss Trafalgar."
[13:57] Breezy Carver: aww is it too much ??
[13:57] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: Hi Wiggy
[13:57] Breezy Carver: blushes
[13:57] Serafina Puchkina: Okay that's about the 4th person I have said hello to and they don't reply
[13:57] Augustus Dayafter: Hello Sera
[13:57] Maelstorme Smythe: Hi Sera.
[13:57] Serafina Puchkina: Excuse me while I go get a complex
[13:57] Wiggy Undertone: Hello Serafina :)
[13:58] Viv Trafalgar: Hi Ser!
[13:58] Jasper Kiergarten: hi sera
[13:58] Ambrose Steampunk: Hi sewra!
[13:58] Viv Trafalgar: lol
[13:58] Maelstorme Smythe: Sera hai.
[13:58] Reghan Straaf: Just in case it was me and I missed it - Hello, Miss Sera!
[13:58] Serafina Puchkina: Thank you! I feel so much better!
[13:58] Maelstorme Smythe: Hello again Sera.
[13:58] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: Hi Sera Hi Sera Hi Sera Hi Sera Hi Sera
[13:58] Augustus Dayafter: Oh hai thur sera
[13:58] Jedburgh30 Dagger: HEY SERA!
[13:58] Viv Trafalgar: oh, and Hi Sera!
[13:58] Serafina Puchkina: Ok ok
[13:58] Serafina Puchkina: No complex
[13:58] Ambrose Steampunk: I heart you Sera
[13:58] Rhianon Jameson: Good afternoon, Miss Puchkina. (Just in case.)
[13:58] Serafina Puchkina laughs
[13:58] Penelope Strathearn: hello
[13:58] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: (is Sera here?)
[13:58] Ceejay Writer: HAI SERA!
[13:58] Maelstorme Smythe: I'll dipsnog you later if you like Sera.
[13:59] Maelstorme Smythe: So will Ceejay.
[13:59] Ambrose Steampunk: lol
[13:59] Serafina Puchkina: Ooooh!
[13:59] Doctor Obolensky: Que Sera?
[13:59] Serafina Puchkina: Two digsnogs!
[13:59] Ceejay Writer: Pardon my lags. I'm reassuring everyone in private IMs' that I am indeed wearing a skirt. ;)
[13:59] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: LOL
[13:59] Maelstorme Smythe: lmao
[13:59] Augustus Dayafter: hello mah baby, hello mah Sera, hello mah ragtime gal
[13:59] Bookworm Hienrichs laughs.
[13:59] Jedburgh30 Dagger: what ever will be, will be
[13:59] Ambrose Steampunk: No she’ll be dipsnogging Bob
[13:59] Bookworm Hienrichs: Hello, Mayor!
[13:59] Viv Trafalgar: welcome clockwinder!
[13:59] Serafina Puchkina: The Mayor is in the house!
[13:59] Augustus Dayafter: crap... run, its Tenk
[13:59] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: But Ceejay, no one believes you anyway, do they?
[13:59] Ambrose Steampunk: Mr Tenk!!!
[13:59] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Mayor [smiles]
[14:00] Maelstorme Smythe: You do have frightfully lovely gams, Ceejay
[14:00] Gatsby Szuster: Hello Mayor Tenk
[14:00] Ceejay Writer: Zen.... I think they are humoring me!
[14:00] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: Hi Mayor !!
[14:00] Elilka Sieyes: Good day, Mayor Tenk :)
[14:00] Maelstorme Smythe: Hello your mayorificence
[14:00] Ceejay Writer: Bob, darling.... close your mouth, you're unnerving me.
[14:00] Maelstorme Smythe: your mayoral mayorness
[14:00] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: I think so CJ
[14:00] Ambrose Steampunk: i think were making him mad by calling him mayor
[14:00] Serafina Puchkina: Hello Mr Livingstone
[14:00] Elilka Sieyes grins at Mister Smythe
[14:00] Viv Trafalgar: well then we won't tell him about the dipsnogging
[14:00] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: i have to open my nouth to breath!
[14:00] Maelstorme Smythe: why?
[14:00] Ceejay Writer: But you are gaping, child!
[14:00] Maelstorme Smythe: we need a booth permit
[14:00] Penelope Strathearn: Hello, Mayer Tenk
[14:01] Viv Trafalgar: Clears throat
[14:01] Baron Livingston: Greetings. Please forgive my initial disorientation.
[14:01] Mosseveno Tenk looks uncomfortable
[14:01] Viv Trafalgar: Welcome to the fourth Aether Salon of Babbage!
[14:02] Ceejay Writer: Baron, that's natural in Babbage.
[14:02] Viv Trafalgar: For the past few months, we have reveled in some of the brightest and most amusing lights on the grid - discussing everything from curses to weapons, evil to lycans. We promise in the next six months to bring you even more witticisms and wisdom, as well as probably some exploding things.
[14:02] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: clap clap clap
[14:02] Viv Trafalgar: Mark your calendars for Shimmy! in March, Submersibles! in April, Engines! in May, and Fey! in June. After a brief hiatus, we'll return in September with Airships!, and have confirmation for October's Haberdashery! extravaganza.
[14:02] Sylvie Franizzi eyes Bob.
[14:02] Maelstorme Smythe: *claps heartily*
[14:02] Viv Trafalgar: We're keeping a log of things 'overheard at the salon' on aethersalon.blogspot.com - just in case you're looking for a good laugh.
[14:02] Viv Trafalgar: This month, we have a real treat - Amour! Beginning with a historical look at corsets and ending with a wild auction of 15 of our friends' great ideas for things to do on the grid.
[14:02] Softpaw Sommer hopes she can make the one in June...busy month
[14:03] Viv Trafalgar: This auction will support http://roomtoread.org (thanks Gus, great suggestion), and the Salon itself. Equally.
[14:03] Augustus Dayafter: (no prob dear)
[14:03] Viv Trafalgar: We appreciate the support we receive from everyone in the community - and most especially our speakers and our auctionees. As you know, the speakers' fund is given in its entirety to the speaker(s) at the end of each event. However, we will gratefully accept the lindens you leave in the auction coffers today, for roomtoread.org and the Salon. There are also Salon support broadsides just outside our gates.
[14:03] Viv Trafalgar: We will shut up about fundraising now.
[14:03] Viv Trafalgar: We are very grateful as always to Miss Ceejay Writer, Miss Breezy Carver, Doc O, and Canolli Capalini of Capalini Fine Furnishings for the chairs. As well, I would in no way be here in front of you without the support of my dear Salon co-host Serafina Puchkina.
[14:03] Viv Trafalgar: Please hold your questions until the end, and please observe common rules of etiquette - detatch HUDs and scripts; no biting, no mullets, and no weapons in the Salon.
[14:03] Bookworm Hienrichs applauds.
[14:03] Viv Trafalgar: Please enjoy your afternoon with us and the wonderful Captain Red (who has promised not to violate the covenant), and don't forget to bid often at the auction.
[14:03] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Thank you dear Miss Trafalgar, I am honored to have been asked to speak about something that one might, in other times and in other cites, be categorized as unmentionable. However, being a forward moving community of free thinkers here in New Babbage and with so many Ladies who are devoted to Science, learning and fashion, it is then possible to mention and discuss that which supports and armors us ladies all....mainly that of our corsets, bustles and crinolines.
[14:04] Redgrrl Llewellyn: From reeds, whale bone, to steel strips, corsets have been our armor for thousands of years....(and some Gentlemen wore them, too!)..thank you for joining me in this brief tour of fashion history and the eccentricities of body modification for beauty and status.
[14:04] Redgrrl Llewellyn: I have a few tidbits of information to present and afterwards i shall be taking questions. Pray, take a moment to note the numbered illustrations I have placed about the salon those will be figuring in my presentation... [she smiles and gestures around in a sweeping manner] i have only 20 minutes to tell you about 2000 years in corsetry...so tighten your stays and gird your loins, it's going to be a fast ride...
[14:05] Ambrose Steampunk: hahaha puns...
[14:05] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Thank you for your kind attention and please...pithy, amusing bon mots of the Babbage variety are always welcome but please do try and keep any salty talk, rude comments, or smoke bombs [gives a mock quelling glance to Bob and his fellow darling troublemakers] to yourself and far from this Salon.
[14:05] Redgrrl Llewellyn: winks] that's how i roll....
[14:05] Redgrrl Llewellyn: For those ladies who are today tightly corseted and apt to swoon i suggest having your vinaigrette handy as I shall not be mincing words or candy coating this topic. Ahem!...[smiles demurely]
[14:06] Redgrrl Llewellyn: The corset, containing the French word corps for body, is a cinching garment that encases the middle torso to either push up or flatten the breasts, or to hug the waist into shape, or both. It is a fashion mainstay that has been in use in one form or another for thousands of years, but its roots can be traced to drawings discovered at the Neolithic archaeological site at Brandon in Norfolk, England.
[14:06] Elina Koskinen: Oh...corsets, this shall be interesting...for disguise purposes.
[14:07] Redgrrl Llewellyn: quite! [nods grinning]
[14:07] Redgrrl Llewellyn: The drawings found depict women wearing bodices made from animal hides that are laced down the front. It's suspected that these primitive corsets were fresh hides which were wrapped around the body and allowed to harden and mold snugly (hopefully not mould!) to their bodies.
[14:07] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Around 1700 BC, Minoans used corsets that were fitted and laced or a smaller corselette that left the breasts exposed. Because men are also depicted in artwork of that time period as having tiny waists, it is believed that they used belts to cinch their waists tight and traditionally, began on young boys in order to train their waists. (Pray pause to glance at Figure 1.)
[14:07] Redgrrl Llewellyn: In other ancient civilizations, corseted women were painted on pottery in Crete, Egypt, Rome, Greece, and Assyria. Women in Egypt wore a band under their bust as part of their outward costume. (Pray pause to glance at Figure 2.)
[14:08] Ambrose Steampunk cant see through the sea of names
[14:08] Softpaw Sommer: Pan to the far wall Ambrose
[14:08] Elina Koskinen: (you can turn the names off)
[14:08] Redgrrl Llewellyn: ((the illustrations will also be available on my blog after the Salon))
[14:08] Redgrrl Llewellyn: During the 13th and 14th centuries, free flowing dresses were replaced by dresses that utilized lacing to shape the garments closer to the body. These gowns were known as kirtles. Chaucer made reference to them in his tales, noting that they were made in varying colours and laced closely to the feminine form. (Pray pause to glance at Figure 3.)
[14:09] Redgrrl Llewellyn: With the advent of the growing silk industry in the 14th century, fabrics such as silk, brocade, velvet, and damask required a stronger, supported construction in order to reveal the body's shape. The first artificial support was made in Italy, called a coche, and later became known as a busk in England. (Pray pause to glance at Figure 4.)
[14:10] Breezy Carver: ☆smiles ☆
[14:10] Redgrrl Llewellyn: smiles back
[14:10] Breezy Carver: awwww
[14:10] Redgrrl Llewellyn: The 16th century costume was upheld as a symbol of position, rank, and wealth. The corset played a large part in displaying a person's position. In the French court, under the influence of Italian-born Catherine de Medici, ladies in waiting were instructed to cinch their waists to a size no bigger than thirteen inches around. Even given the difference in average body size of a woman in modern times, thirteen inches would have been extreme!
[14:10] Pinkfeather Heron waves hullo to everyone :)
[14:10] Redgrrl Llewellyn: smiles and waves to Miss Heron..] just in time dear
[14:11] Redgrrl Llewellyn: In the royal court of Queen Elizabeth a similar garment was called a bodie a term later to become the word bodice. (Pray pause to glance at Figure 5.)
[14:11] Viv Trafalgar: These etchings are very illuminating
[14:11] Breezy Carver: looks !!
[14:11] Redgrrl Llewellyn: and not for the squeamish
[14:11] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Queen Elizabeth had several pairs of bodies listed in her wardrobe accounts. The following listings, according to Janet Arnold (author of "Queen Elizabeth's Wardrobe Unlock'd"), most likely referred to a corset-like garment. • A payre of bodies of black cloth of silver with little skirts (1571), and a pair of bodies of sweete lether (1579) (Pray pause to glance at Figure 6. Elizabeth's Effigy Corset)
[14:12] Redgrrl Llewellyn: grins and waits for a joke about sweete lether ......
[14:12] Softpaw Sommer: Damned good book too if you can get ahold of it
[14:12] Jedburgh30 Dagger: Janet Arnold rocks
[14:12] Redgrrl Llewellyn: quite! ...a handy reference...check your local library
[14:12] Redgrrl Llewellyn: It was also in the French court that a steel framework corset was introduced. Usually made up of four plates with perforation ornamental designs, they were connected at the sides and front while leaving the back open to get in and out of. Undoubtedly these were very good at deflecting arrows but not ideal for our modern magnets! (Pray pause to glance at Figure 7.)
[14:13] Ghilayne Andrew nods. "I'll look for it, it sounds fascinating."
[14:13] Viv Trafalgar: steel? really?
[14:13] Redgrrl Llewellyn: really. we have some extant examples of steel corsets because it lasts better than textiles but yes
[14:14] Redgrrl Llewellyn: steel
[14:14] Wiggy Undertone: That's the first one that actually has some utility.
[14:14] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: eeek
[14:14] Redgrrl Llewellyn: During the 17th century, there was a space of time when politics across Europe demanded a less extravagant use of fabric. Along with a less-is-more-approach to fashion came the embellishment and fixation of the busk. [14:14] Pinkfeather Heron: I've heard some describe corsets as armor-like, but... ;)
[14:14] Redgrrl Llewellyn: As seen on the left of Figure 8, The busk fit inside the front of the corset and was made from wood, ivory, metal, or whale bone. A young man might carve or purchase and elegant busk as a present for his heart's fancy. I can imagine a Babbage man would create a very interesting busk...mayhap made of copper?
[14:14] Maelstorme Smythe: Clearly you've never been to Singapore.
[14:14] Viv Trafalgar: ::coughs::
[14:15] Ceejay Writer blinks.
[14:15] Ghilayne Andrew laughs merrily.
[14:15] Redgrrl Llewellyn: A working woman's bodice at this time would be laced in the front...also called a jump and worn over a chemise. Mayhap the precursor to the term jumper? Also popular at this time were stays.
[14:15] Redgrrl Llewellyn: grins
[14:15] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Pray glance again at Figure 8. The stays on the right are an extant example Circa 1700-1799. American colonial brown quilted cotton stays with center back lacing. Whalebone insets and lacing on the upper portion of the center front.
[14:15] Redgrrl Llewellyn: The advent of the 18th century and King Louis XIV of France's reign saw a return of luxury, but only briefly. The Corps Baleine showed up on the scene and size and the width of the skirts diminished. (Pray pause to glance at Figure 9.)
[14:15] Softpaw Sommer: tabbed corset! yeah
[14:16] Redgrrl Llewellyn: The 19th century heralded changes in corsetry by leaps and bounds. During the Napoleonic Wars, a doctor with the French army invented a metallic eyelet. Eyelets added to corsets allowed them to be cinched even tighter without fear of damaging the fabric.
[14:16] Redgrrl Llewellyn: The 19th century heralded changes in corsetry by leaps and bounds. During the Napoleonic Wars, a doctor with the French army invented a metallic eyelet. Eyelets added to corsets allowed them to be cinched even tighter without fear of damaging the fabric.
[14:16] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Steam-molding also helped create a curvaceous contour. Introduced in the 1860s this was a process whereby once the corset was finished, it was heavily starched and dried and shaped on a 'mannequin' mould fed with steam. (Pray pause to glance at Figure 10.)
[14:16] Ambrose Steampunk: but damaging the human!
[14:16] Elfod Nemeth: spun
[14:16] Redgrrl Llewellyn: we will be getting to that Mr. Steampunk...
[14:17] Redgrrl Llewellyn: No wonder that these types of corsets were referred to as 'cuirasse' bodices. Just from looking at them one can see that they would have been restrictive garments, not allowing a great degree of freedom of movement. Moreover, the woman's body was thrown forward by the rigidity of her underwear and high-heeled shoes to create a distorted shape.
[14:17] Ambrose Steampunk: Sorr...
[14:17] Redgrrl Llewellyn: no....well timed!
[14:17] Redgrrl Llewellyn: The silhouette created by the this fashion for corsets, crinolettes and bustles gave rise to what was termed 'The Grecian Bend'. The caricature in the cartoon from Punch gives an idea of the shape of the Grecian bend, although it has been exaggerated for satirical purposes. (Pray pause to glance at Figure 11.)
[14:17] Pinkfeather Heron: what a graceful name for the shape ;)
[14:18] Redgrrl Llewellyn: There were even worse accusations thrown against the corset. Journals such as the English Woman's Domestic Magazine devoted space to a whole run of letters on the subject of tight lacing--some of which claimed that waists were reduced through corsetry to 15 inches and that girls were forced to wear corsets at night as well as during the daytime.
[14:18] Bookworm Hienrichs winces.
[14:18] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Doctors and medical writers cited countless diseases caused by corsets, which included consumption, curvature of the spine, rib displacement, cancer, hysteria, hunchback, abortion, melancholy and epilepsy. In addition, although corsets were considered by many to be good for the morals, they were also criticised for titillating qualities, especially when used in erotic literature. Ahem! [smiles demurely] (Pray pause to glance at Figure 12.)
[14:18] Penelope Strathearn: ouch
[14:19] Redgrrl Llewellyn: But one should take care when analysing these accusations. Although it is clear that some people laced their corsets very tightly, and there are horror stories of damage done to the internal organs, extreme tight-lacing was probably the exception rather than the rule. Many of the letters on the subject in the Englishwoman's Domestic Magazine may have been written by fetishists or those trying to shock women out of wearing restrictive underwear.
[14:19] Viv Trafalgar: that's one Edgar Allen Poe story I'd love to see - Trapped In A Corset
[14:19] Softpaw Sommer: been there done that when I coudlnt find someone to unlace me after Faire
[14:19] Jedburgh30 Dagger: The tell-tale underwear
[14:20] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Jed...[grins] Nevermore!
[14:20] Redgrrl Llewellyn: In our more enlightened age we now have the Electric Corset with embeded magnets that help adjust our humours. [grins wryly] The most important myth I would like to dispel about modern Victorian corsetry is that tight-lacing is the norm. There is a oft-quoted myth that some Victorian ladies often have ribs removed in order to draw their waists smaller.
[14:20] Redgrrl Llewellyn: While small waists are the desired end, and fashionable women do indeed go to extremes, I want you to think about the likelihood of someone surviving abdominal surgery ((before the invention of antibiotics)). To be clear, modern doctors would rather amputate a limb rather than remove a bullet or fix a compound fracture! The idea that anyone removes ribs from a Lady *and they lived* is just ludicrous.(Pray pause to glance at Figure 13.)
[14:21] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Also the idea that tight-lacing deformed women is just nonsense. The area of your body that is compressed by tight-lacing are the soft bits -- your abdominal area and the cartlidge-heavy floating ribs. All these things take compression very well....they're made to compress when you're with child. And a lady can tight-lace for years and stop and expect to return to nomal within days if not hours. In scientific terms, it's all squishy so it just squishes back into place. [14:22] Redgrrl Llewellyn: is very scientific nods]
[14:22] Redgrrl Llewellyn: In our modern Victorian period, there is this idea in advertising that women have weak spines and that they need corsetry to be able to support their own weight. It's ridiculous, of course, but it probably has its origins in the fact that 18th century stays support the lower back. Our modern Victorian corsets don't. This didn't stop corsets from being worn by all strata of society. It just wouldn't do to be a "loose woman" and one would always want to be "straight laced"
[14:22] Augustus Dayafter: heh
[14:22] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Also to be noted, whalebone isn't bone. It's a keratinous material...like your fingernails. It is more properly called "baleen" because it is the mouth filters of the Baleen Whale. It's flexible and forms to shape when warmed to body temperature. A corset boned with baleen are light and flexible, not the heavy, harsh thing that steel-boned corsets are.
[14:23] Softpaw Sommer: ((zip tie boneing))

[14:24] Ambrose Steampunk: ((you know your stuff softpaw))
[14:24] Redgrrl Llewellyn: ((for repro reeds do the best they warm and bend and are natural...i don't use anything synthetic in my designs...but I'm odd that way)) [14:24] Redgrrl Llewellyn: As for the bustle, though some say they are going out of favour...we now have the 'The New Phantom' bustle, ((dating from about 1884)), which has a special feature. (Pray pause to glance at Figure 14.) The steel wires are attaches to a pivot so that they fold in on themselves on sitting down and spring back when the wearer rises. And to leave you with an amusing and musical note a novelty bustle has been made to commemorate Queen Victoria's Golden Jubilee celebrations containing a less useful device. It is fitted with a musical box that plays 'God Save the Queen' each time the wearer sits down!
[14:24] Bookworm Hienrichs laughs.
[14:24] Softpaw Sommer: ....*gigglefits*
[14:25] Sylvie Franizzi: Oh goodness!
[14:25] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: lol
[14:25] Remington Thursday: lol
[14:25] Elina Koskinen: I say!
[14:25] Pinkfeather Heron: if it plays "god save the queen" every time one sits down, does that mean everyone else must stand?
[14:25] Kordite Eizenberg: Would it not be more proper to stand for "God Save the Queen". A release trigger would be necessary.
[14:25] Redgrrl Llewellyn: i am sorry i could not find an example of that bustle to share with you....but we have so many designers here....
[14:26] Redgrrl Llewellyn: Thank you for your kind attention and if there are any questions, pray...do not hesitate to ask. ((a slightly longer version of this talk along with the illustrations and all my references will be published on my personal blog. http://celtgrrl.blogspot.com/ available now ))
[14:26] Viv Trafalgar: We have a few minutes to take a couple questions
[14:26] Bookworm Hienrichs applauds.
[14:26] Ambrose Steampunk raises his hand with a question
[14:26] Viv Trafalgar: before the auction
[14:26] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: applause !!!!
[14:26] Rhianon Jameson applauds.
[14:26] Viv Trafalgar: Mr. Steampunk
[14:26] Ahnyanka Delphin applauds for Captain Red.
[14:26] Remington Thursday: Thank you, red, for a very well rounded lesson. I actually worked with corsets and bodices professionally for a bit. I am glad to hear you dispel some of the common myths regarding them.
[14:26] Serafina Puchkina applauds
[14:26] Augustus Dayafter applauds.
[14:26] Petunia Schism: applause!
[14:26] Ghilayne Andrew applauds loudly!
[14:26] Leonardo Serrao: We want more..we want more
[14:26] Remington Thursday applauds
[14:26] Viv Trafalgar: Well done Red!
[14:26] Penelope Strathearn: *clapping*
[14:26] Pinkfeather Heron claps :)
[14:26] Redgrrl Llewellyn: smiles and flushes a bit....murmurs] thank you
[14:26] Wiggy Undertone cheers and claps
[14:27] Maelstorme Smythe applauds laoudly, wolf whistles
[14:27] Ambrose Steampunk: Yes the uses of corsets if fairy tales... didn’t the queen in Snow white use a corset to try and kill her?
[14:27] Sylvie Franizzi applauds!
[14:27] Ambrose Steampunk: Snow White that is.
[14:27] Softpaw Sommer: ((can share that link on m rly LJ?))
[14:27] Reghan Straaf applauds!
[14:27] ZenRascal Mandelbrot writes "squishy" in notebook
[14:27] Redgrrl Llewellyn: They have been stuff of fairy tales and myths for thousands of yeas...a broken steel stay could kill you but rarely did
[14:28] Viv Trafalgar: Other questions?
[14:28] Dreddpiratebob Streeter raises hand
[14:29] Serafina Puchkina: Yes, Bob?
[14:29] Viv Trafalgar: Yes Mr. Streeter!
[14:29] Redgrrl Llewellyn: yes bob?
[14:29] Ambrose Steampunk: Bob keep it appropriate
[14:29] Redgrrl Llewellyn: girds her loins
[14:29] Viv Trafalgar: Laughs
[14:29] Ambrose Steampunk: lol
[14:29] Augustus Dayafter: this should be interesting
[14:29] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: uh oh
[14:29] Redgrrl Llewellyn: let the boy speak
[14:29] Sylvie Franizzi eyes Bob
[14:29] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: when ya go to the toilet does the corset get looser?
[14:29] Pinkfeather Heron snickers
[14:29] Redgrrl Llewellyn: no dear....
[14:29] Viv Trafalgar: >Facepalms<
[14:29] Ambrose Steampunk: LOL
[14:29] Rip Wirefly laughs
[14:29] Gatsby Szuster: LOL
[14:29] Penelope Strathearn: *giggles*
[14:29] Pinkfeather Heron: unless you're wearing a bladder corset??
[14:29] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: HAHAHA
[14:29] Viv Trafalgar: any OTHER questions?
[14:29] Sylvie Franizzi shakes head
[14:29] Viv Trafalgar: bob, have a cookie
[14:30] Viv Trafalgar: or four
[14:30] Jedburgh30 Dagger: when you go to the bathroom does your hat get looser?
[14:30] Viv Trafalgar: Jed FTW
[14:30] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: sometimes
[14:30] Redgrrl Llewellyn: well only when he goes IN his hat
[14:30] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: LOL Jed
[14:30] Pinkfeather Heron alughs
[14:30] Jasper Kiergarten: lol@jed
[14:30] Ahnyanka Delphin giggles at Jed.
[14:30] Pinkfeather Heron: er, *laughs
[14:30] Beq Janus claps Jed
[14:30] Ghilayne Andrew says in calm tones, "Bob, the corset does not extend to the lower extremities of anatomy such that it would make a difference."
[14:30] Softpaw Sommer: yes she did Abrose...lace her t tight.also sed a oisendcomb..and YEH I'mlaggin so sory forthe tyos andif this has ben ansered
[14:30] Redgrrl Llewellyn: thank you all for your kind donations which I am donating to the Salon and to our charity......
[14:30] Maelstorme Smythe: *smiles*
[14:30] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: but if yer belly is full surly when it empties the coset would fall off
[14:31] Viv Trafalgar: Thank you Red!
[14:31] Pinkfeather Heron: I have a question! did men historically wear corsets, ever?
[14:31] Ceejay Writer applauds Red's smartness AND generosity.
[14:31] Serafina Puchkina: thank you Red
[14:31] Elina Koskinen: Yes...did they...?
[14:31] Ambrose Steampunk: BOB!
[14:31] Viv Trafalgar: Ladies and gentlemen - one more round for Captain Red
[14:31] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: what?!
[14:31] Viv Trafalgar: Claps!
[14:31] Ceejay Writer: Bob wears one.
[14:31] Ambrose Steampunk: stoppit!
[14:31] Viv Trafalgar: Loudly over bob
[14:31] Jedburgh30 Dagger: applauds
[14:31] Ahnyanka Delphin applauds.
[14:31] Sylvie Franizzi applauds
[14:31] Rhianon Jameson applauds.
[14:31] Serafina Puchkina: Hello Dr Fabre
[14:31] Beq Janus applauds
[14:31] Remington Thursday applauds
[14:31] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: APPLAUSE APPLAUSE APPLAUSE APPLAUSE
[14:31] Redgrrl Llewellyn: one could loosen one's stays if need be....now onto the auction!
[14:31] Elilka Sieyes claps
[14:31] Pinkfeather Heron: :)
[14:32] Ambrose Steampunk: WOOOOOOOO!
[14:32] Rip Wirefly claps
[14:32] Bookworm Hienrichs starts feeling nervous.
[14:32] Viv Trafalgar: Just one moment while I get the other jar out
[14:32] Sylvie Franizzi smiles at Book
[14:32] Viv Trafalgar: so sorry zen!
[14:33] ZenRascal Mandelbrot: for what? np Viv
[14:33] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: that was really good cap'n Red
[14:33] raspberry Quartz: waves
[14:33] Bernard Birman: Some of the money should go to the "stop whaling foundation" All those whale bones
[14:33] Viv Trafalgar: that was awesome
[14:33] Sylvie Franizzi smiles at Bob
14:33] Doctor Obolensky: Except for the lack of live models.
[14:33] Dreddpiratebob Streeter: i was expecting more swash buckling though